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Indoor Training season is upon us....share set-ups, entertainment options, etc.
Last Post 11/25/2019 09:53 AM by Arnold Glim. 52 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid
Posts:2904
11/18/2019 02:33 PM
The only "gravel" option for us is the Ders Plaines River Trail....which has been flooded for almost the entire Fall.....otherwise I would be riding outside a lot more.As it is, we are confined to the area right around our town, between underpasses to the north and south of us.
It kinda sucks...
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush
Posts:2650
11/23/2019 12:42 PM
Friday's long ride was successfully executed.
A bit of a hair raising start going downhill out of town on shiny roads in frosty conditions. The destination trail got a bit much for a gravel ride with numerous rocky stream crossings. But we didn't wreck on either occasion rode 116kms and drank four beers. Got home just as the daylight switched off again. Raining and gloomy now.
longslowdistance
Posts:1906
11/23/2019 01:57 PM
Great RR!
Cosmic Kid
Posts:2904
11/23/2019 02:22 PM
Looked like an epic ride!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Mr.Earl
Posts:8
11/25/2019 12:21 AM
Hi Guys,
I haven't posted here since Goat Roper days, but I see that as many of you are training with Zwift; I've got a question for you. I live in two different locations and have a Zwift set up at each. At one I use a Kickr Snap and roll along near the end of the pack. At the other location and use a dumb trainer (Cycleops fluid 2) and I'm a star off the front. I'm pretty sure I'm set up correctly at both locations. I go from about 1.6 w/kg with the power control to about 3 w/kg with only speed, cadence and heart rate with the dumb trainer. I'd hate to disappoint the Zwift people with my fall from physical conditioning when I start using the smart trainer again. Any explanations? - Mr.Earl
Dale
Posts:1203
11/25/2019 07:08 AM
No explanation but of the two, which do you think is more accurate? There are a variety of charts giving estimate w/kg. ~3w/kg is about what an average Cat 4 roadie can sustain (20+ minutes). 1.6 is below the chart for anyone racing. If you're 70+ you might be the latter, 30-60 and an active racer or reasonably fit 3 might be more in line.
FWIW I'm mid-60 mid-pack cx racer and can sustain 3.2 for an hour
PS Nice to have you back and +1 for the Goat Roper reference. Those were the days
Cosmic Kid
Posts:2904
11/25/2019 07:25 AM
Sounds like you are using Zpower with your dumb trainer, which is only an estimate of actual power and is known to be vary pretty wildly.
I bet if you increased the resistance on your dumb trainer, you could get the two set-ups to better mirror each other.
Alternatively, recalibrate your smart trainer and make sure it is giving you accurate numbers.
Goatroper....god help us. LOL!!! Welcome back!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Mr.Earl
Posts:8
11/25/2019 09:53 AM
Dale
The power trainer is probably more accurate. I'll be 77 in January, and can only keep up with the old guys i.e., until I bought a Bianchi Aria E- road bike. No, I don't use it with Zwift.
Cosmic
I am only using Z power with my dumb trainer. I've got the wheel resistance turned up to the suggested values, but maybe I'll give it another turn. I do like being at the head of the pack though... I don't use a separate power meter with the dumb trainer.
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