Cosmic Kid
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| 11/10/2020 01:24 PM |
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inner placed bar ends
Yeah, I was gonna suggest that as another option....i'm pretty sure there are a number of aftermarket options that you can use if you can't find the Koga |
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Orange Crush
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| 11/10/2020 01:31 PM |
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Interesting bars. The first thing that comes to mind when I see images is width of overall bars and how much undergrowth I often come in contact with on some of the trails here. It is particularly bad when you ride through former clearcuts. We had one ride that has a 10 km steep descent through a former clearcut area with the entire section spent having green stuff whip your face and trying to grab your bike. Having wide bars on that trail would have been very interesting. Of course with hands on flat bars one would likely have been able to resist the resistance of all that green stuff.
The flare back would be pretty useless on a gravel bike, I can't see putting my hands there at any point in time. That kind of handlebar shape is good for upright bikes (dutch bikes), nothing else I would think. On my gravel bike I use hoods mostly and then the top bar for some climbing. Having some space there to put your hands (if that's a preferred position) would also be important. A lot of the burrito handlebar bags that people use for gravel biking tend to get in way of that position.
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huckleberry
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| 11/10/2020 02:18 PM |
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My present flat bars are 70cm, the Koga is only 1 cm wider. Although I would like to be about 60, but not sure if I can accomplish what I want with that width - levers, inner placed bar ends, grips...
I can't decide wether I want a stubby type bar end or a six-inch. These stubbies are interesting - SQlab 411 Bicycle Innerbarends, and I think I would like to try these grips - Ergon GC1 BioKork Grips. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 11/10/2020 02:40 PM |
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width of overall bars
I don't know what I hate more....the trend of super-wide bars or the trend in the late 90's / early 00's to rider bars.
There was nothing wrong with "normal" width flat bars with bar ends....offered the most hand positions. I can't even ride current width MTB bars. Extremely uncomfortable. |
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longslowdistance
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| 11/10/2020 07:00 PM |
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| Salsa cowbell handlebars have worked well for me on my gravel bike - a bit of flare but not ridiculous, good width, shallow drop, and I can use brifters and ride on the hoods.
https://salsacycles.com/components/category/road_handlebars/cowbell |
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huckleberry
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| 11/10/2020 07:40 PM |
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LSD - I would love to be able to use a drop bar, especially the Salsa Cowchipper, but that would mean that I would have to find a bar that will accept my 22.2 clamp for my MTB trigger shifters, otherwise I have to spend a good amount of money to replace my components into a road/gravel gruppo, and I can't afford that. Trying to keep it simple.
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longslowdistance
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| 11/10/2020 09:15 PM |
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Yes, I get that. Trigger shifters and mtb brake levers on flattish bars vs. road brifters on drop or dropish bars. Glad we have freedom of choice.
I may be behind, but SRAM gets that too, and long has. So thanks to SRAM i've been rocking Rival road shifters with mtb gearing for 6 or more years, which shimano simply did not allow. With the wireless stuff out now, big S might have caught up with SRAM, at a price. |
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huckleberry
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| 11/10/2020 10:37 PM |
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I realize they work together, but that doesn't pay for the new brifters that also operate hydraulic brakes for the 20 speed XX ; ) As they have moved to the 22 speed. I've tried to find the older 10 speed shifters on ebay, but haven't had any luck so far.
It still means replacing the majority of the gruppo, and if one is doing that, why not go for the whole group. |
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huckleberry
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| 11/16/2020 04:23 PM |
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Holy Moly!
In theory, as the new fork and tires have not arrived, I will be knocking 4.85 lbs off of an already very light hardtail.
Swapping a 29er Rock Shox Reba XX fork(1700 grams), for an older Niner rigid(500 grams) a 1200 gram reduction. Plus swapping out my 2.3 and 2.25 WTB's - mixed pair(2000 grams/pair) for Panaracer SK's 43mm(1000 grams/pair) - a 1000 gram difference.
If my math is correct, that is a 2200 gram difference - which I believe is 4.85 pounds.
I'm keeping the flat bar and have already got new small nubs mounted that somewhat act as my hoods position and have new bar grips coming. My position will be slightly altered as I will be dropping the front end - the bars, not the frame by 1.5 cm(because of the shorter fork steerer) but I did a two hour ride today in that mocked up position and felt quite good - it is nowhere near how far my drop is on my road bikes, so no big surprise.
Should have it all together in two weeks and I'll post some pics on my Instagram page.
Very excited... |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 11/16/2020 09:06 PM |
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| Looking forward to the pics!!! |
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huckleberry
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| 12/04/2020 05:23 PM |
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Just posted a few pics of my new build on my Instagram page, which I believe is accessible to anyone...
https://www.instagram.com/harold_y_maude/
Did my first ride today. Better than I had hoped. Quite happy. |
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Orange Crush
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| 12/04/2020 07:52 PM |
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Good looking setup. Nice photo wall. Almost as good as Robert Gesinks but not quite.
I’m on there as Tales of Brave Ulysses (Exploring the Cream of BC gravel). Mostly just a page for myself. I’m sure a few will be getting the musical reference.
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longslowdistance
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| 12/04/2020 08:22 PM |
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Like that reference. Hope you have followed Ginger's career after Cream. He's no showboat and is the real deal.
No offense to the other two, successful careers all around. |
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Orange Crush
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| 12/04/2020 08:48 PM |
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| I haven’t no. Neither with the other two beyond some of the original supergroup collaborations. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 12/05/2020 10:48 AM |
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| That looks awesome....bet it is a blast to ride! |
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