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One wheelset for all things
Last Post 12/30/2013 10:49 PM by Hoshie S. 10 Replies.
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gabbard

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12/16/2013 10:56 AM
Well, I will be in the field for work for most of December, and want to buy myself a present for all of this work foolishness.  I am thinking about a new wheelset.  Maximum  I want to spend is $700.  My current wheelset is a 10 year old Record hub, Open Pro, 32 hole wheelset, very traditional.  It has been totally reliable for year-round riding on pavement and dirt roads, fast club rides, everything.  Note that there is really nothing wrong with my current wheels, just mainly want to try something new.  I am interested in the new, wider rims that are starting to show up, so here is a rough idea that I would like some comments about:

Rims - Pacenti SL23, Hed Belgium or something with a similar profile - looking for a wider rim, slightly taller, as aero as possible without being unpleasant to ride in cross wind.  32 hole front/rear.

Spokes - Sapim CX-Ray

Hubs - DT 350, White Industries T11, or similar.  I currently use Campagnolo components, but may be buying a new bike in the coming year, and may end up switching to Shimano or SRAM, so want a hubset that allows me to swap the freehub body to accept different cassettes.

The other option is to save the money and just put it toward a full new bike.  I am riding an aluminum frame Orbea now, and I am looking at "endurance" bikes like the Cannondale Synapse, Trek Domane, Specialized Roubaix, under $3k.

Comments? Feel free to point out any stupidity on my part.

Steve
Cosmic Kid

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12/16/2013 11:04 AM
Competitive Cyclist had the HED Ardennes FR wheels @ 50% off last week, but not listed at that price currently. They pop up on Chainlove.com pretty regularly, or just give them a call and see if they'll still give you the "12 Days of Xmas" sale price.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/hed-ardennes-fr-plus-wheelset-clincher?ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6SEVEOjE6MTA6SEVE
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
jrt1045

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12/16/2013 12:34 PM
If you are under 200 pounds, think 28 hole and 2 cross archetypes. built a set with butted spokes and they ride really nice

If that is what you thinking about the new bike, make sure you get a hub that allows you to play with the freehub. that will be a bike issue once the 11 speed gets rolling out. I like the HED's too. That will solve all your problems now and in the future
gabbard

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12/16/2013 12:57 PM
I weigh 170 pounds, and am pretty easy on equipment.  Also, my Open Pro 32 hole wheels I currently own have been trued maybe 5 times in 10 years, never anything more than a slight tune up.

I could probably go less than 32 holes, but want a wheelset that will be at least close to as durable as my current one.
jrt1045

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12/16/2013 02:11 PM
the aero shaped wide rims are really strong, you a definite candidate for 28 holes. 32 holes are for the gravitationaly-challenged these days. For this application I think they ride better too

I have built a few sets of archetypes (h plus son) for a few folks and I like them better than the velocity version. yet to see a pacenti but I am sure they are good - same with the HEDs
wanker

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12/16/2013 03:54 PM
Quit screwing around and go for the new bike! A new carbon fiber bike with updated components and wheels will be a nice step up.
Master50

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12/19/2013 10:28 AM
I have built many pair of conventional wheels and owned a few factory wheels but my current absolute favourite wheel set is Campagnolo Shamal wheels. More than your budget unfortunately. They have Great Campy bearings. Carbon Shell, are available as tubeless. aero spokes and are generally fast, light and strong. A very good all rounder
79pmooney

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12/19/2013 12:45 PM
I second the idea of building the all-arounders. Then buy that new bike with light, fun wheels. Now you can save tie good wheels for special occasions. Those two pairs, used like that, should last you a long time.

Ben
laurentja

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12/19/2013 02:28 PM
Posted By Mike Shea on 12/19/2013 10:28 AM
I have built many pair of conventional wheels and owned a few factory wheels but my current absolute favourite wheel set is Campagnolo Shamal wheels. More than your budget unfortunately. They have Great Campy bearings. Carbon Shell, are available as tubeless. aero spokes and are generally fast, light and strong. A very good all rounder


I have to 2nd that. If you ride Campy, Shamals are awesome. I have 2 prs, tubular version, that I ride once the roads are clean in spring, pretty much from May-Sept. Neither set has EVER even needed to be trued. I repack the hubs each winter, super easy, loose bearings. They are light as hell and aero enough, no prob in crosswinds.
Master50

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12/22/2013 01:00 PM
I have to 2nd that. If you ride Campy, Shamals are awesome. I have 2 prs, tubular version, that I ride once the roads are clean in spring, pretty much from May-Sept. Neither set has EVER even needed to be trued. I repack the hubs each winter, super easy, loose bearings. They are light as hell and aero enough, no prob in crosswinds.

Actually since you can order all Campy wheels with shimano Cassette bodies these awesome wheels are available for Shimano equipped bikes too. In fact the campy option can be a violable alternative to shimano 11 speed conversions. IE a campy 11 speed cassette on an a campy freehub apparently works perfectly on a shimano 11 speed drive train without any need to reddish wheels or upgrade cassette bodies. For the guy that never spends time out alone on solo breakaways I wonder about the need for deep section wheels? Many times I have found I roll downhill faster than guys with 55 or 65 mm deep section wheels. My only complaint about the rims is that the tubeless option came in the 3rd or 4th year of production. I would consider upgrading the rims if I can use the same spokes and nipples just because a rebuild on these wheels looks to run close to 200 a wheel. My current 1st year shamals (2006) get about 4000 km a year and are now about 28,000 km of trouble free use . I see another 6 years of use on the same rims should be reachable. The brake tracks are only starting to show wear.
Hoshie

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12/30/2013 10:49 PM
Hed or similar quality wide rims w some quality hubs is a darn good call. I have a set of hed jets and the rims are awesome. Ditto the Ardennes deal at compcyclist if you can still get it.
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