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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:06 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:07 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:08 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:09 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
Ben
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:09 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
Ben
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:10 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
Ben
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:13 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
Ben
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 08:13 PM |
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My best finish move was the 1978 State Champs. (Post head injury. I missed the mid-race break so the top 8 places were way up the road and I didn't go on the final quick hill; another did.) I knew I had to go by the town line sign about a mile from the finish. Road was wide and dead straight with an ample paved parking strip (for the very prestigious Myopia Hunt Club, Essex, MA). Pavement in the parking strip was pristine but there was some glass. Nobody crossed the fog line in our 10 circuits.
So I arranged to be about 2/3s of the way back on the right, guessing every would be looking over their left shoulder. Went at the sign. Up the parking strip. Just the other side of the fog stripe. As I passed the leader, I heard "He's going!" but I was away.
I don't think it crossed anybody's mind someone might actually do that. Big victory for me. Now way I could have placed higher unless I pulled off the move that other rider did. And thinking about it now - if I went and he followed and we made it, he would have near certainly beat me in the sprint. As it was, I beat a bunch of riders I had never beaten in an end game move.
1978 was the year I rode smart. I wasn't strong. I would never race again. But I pulled off a bunch of "best possibles". The year before I was strong as an ox and raced not a whole lot smarter.
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Orange Crush
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| 03/25/2019 08:21 PM |
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Posted By Frederick Jones on 03/24/2019 06:48 PM
Yes, aware of the GI bug, good point. But still, haven't seen him at his old level at any time since July. He might have some permanent muscle and/or nerve damage from that crash. I'll hold the thought through PR.
The other aspect may be that he deliberately has a slower start this year. Isn't he targeting racing through to Liege with a more favorable finish this year?
To point of poor tactics, Sagan's main disappointment with himself was finding himself at front and looking at wrong guy. I think there are pluses and minuses to being near barriers.
Certainly with it being a low speed sprint playing to Alaphilipe that's who he should have focused on. Hindsight though. |
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79pmooney
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| 03/25/2019 11:12 PM |
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Bah! Double post.
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longslowdistance
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| 04/07/2019 11:46 PM |
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| I lied, not holding back until PR.
Sagan after finishing respectably but no more in the survivors' pack: "I was able to be in the front when it was needed in the final kilometres but I didn't have the legs to counter the attack of Bettiol and challenge in the reduced sprint."
The PS of last year or many years before would have been at the front of that group.
If he was permanently damaged by his fall last summer, (and decision to continue to get that green jersey despite the pain), I see that as a loss for road cycling in general. Unless you are a hardened Belgium or Dutch fanboy, in which case PS out of the podium picture is always good news, regardless of the big picture. But long term big picture there will be more $$ in the sport and more for everyone with a healthy Peter Sagan. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/08/2019 07:10 AM |
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I don’t think he was permanently injured...I just think he got the prep wrong this year. Trying to exotend his Soring caampaign to challenge in LBL meant they tweaked the program early, hoping to keep his form later and they just left it too late.
The decent showing at MSR (poor tactics cost him more than his legs), the “panicked” ride at GW and the laughable story about a WB taking out his RD (plus his to school issues at T-A) all inicated that he was close, but just not where he needed to be. |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/08/2019 08:40 AM |
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| I dont even think he necessarily got the prep wrong. They intentionally wanted to peak later. But then the stomach flue while on training camp pre tirreno delayed him even further. He's simply behind where he should be. BTW the new Peter Sagan has risen and it's an improved version, more powerful hungrier etc. |
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79pmooney
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| 04/08/2019 01:40 PM |
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If Sagan's flu was anywhere near as draining as the version that has been seen in the NW, he may have taken a much deeper hit than anyone is letting on.
Flu, flue. According to my quick internet search, the only one with stomach issues relating to the flue is Santa.
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79pmooney
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| 04/08/2019 01:43 PM |
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Double post again! Maybe it is time to upgrade my internet service but I REALLY don't want Comcast and they have a monopoly here.
An observation I have had but that didn't click until I wrote that last post - Sagan has looked "off" to my eyes the past month. (Granrted, just from still photos seen on a cumputer screen.) Pale, heavy, no muscle tone, facial features soft. Click, like a sickness took a deep hit on him.
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