Cosmic Kid
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| 09/25/2020 11:34 AM |
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No, what's crap is the idea that a TT bike is somehow "dangerous".
One of the scariest moments I ever had on a bike was descending down "The Wall" on Morgul Bismark on a regular road bike w/ Spinergy wheels. As I emerged past two hills on either side, I got hit with a strong crosswind and damn near went down. Ergo, road bikes are dangerous......
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You need to choose the right equipment for the right conditions.
When I did the 2016 IM 70.3 race in Kenosha, they had to cancel the swim and shorten the bike due to a t-storm that blew in. Once we finally got out on the bike, the wind was whipping big time as a crosswind for the majority of the course. Possibly the worst wind conditions I have ever ridden in. I rode a Zipp 808 and the scariest part of the race was the other idiots, not the crosswinds (and I set the fastest bike split for my Age Group  ) |
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79pmooney
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| 09/25/2020 12:44 PM |
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I just read the comments on CyclingNews.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chloe-dygert-undergoes-surgery-to-repair-laceration-in-left-leg-after-worlds-crash/
One poster is adamant that she had her left hand on the brake; that you can see it on a 1/4 speed replay. (I won't go to YouTube so I'll never know.)
Aside: this is where I love V-brake levers and good non-V-brake calipers. Much, much less likely to have anything exciting happen when adrenaline is pumping. It sounds like she left it too late even so. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/25/2020 01:41 PM |
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The more I watch it, the more I kinda doubt she had a flat....or if she did, she was on tubulars. When the wobble hits, if she had been on clinchers, she would have washed out right there, IMO...she was leaning over and wobbling violently. I don't see how anyone could have kept a bike with a flat clincher up at that point.
it may have been nothing more than her overreacting to the turn, grabbing a fistful of brake and that causing a speed wobble. |
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6ix
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| 09/25/2020 01:55 PM |
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We are definitely being armchair quarterbacks here but I really don't know why the poster on CyclingNews is confident that she was braking. It's impossible to tell from that angle as her left arm is completely blocked from view. With that said, I suppose she could have grabbed a fist-full of front brake, thus causing the wobble like CK suggested. So I'm going to go with that.
Even though it was over 17 years ago, I recall all of us on the VN forums discussing how Beloki crashed too. That was a LOT more apparent though. Still leaves me sketched out seeing that crash. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/25/2020 07:04 PM |
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Like I said it’s all guess work until Chloe pipes in.
In case of Evenepoel since no one asked...
He had practiced turn at racing speed and with ideal line.
Despite that his DS told him to hang at back of group.
The two guys immediately ahead of him took turn significantly poorer and slower.
He rapidly approached them and had to apply corrective braking.
Braking caused skidding and he flipped over bridge.
In retrospect he should have been right behind Nibali and he would be lining up for Giro right now. He might also have podiumed today. |
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Dale
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| 09/25/2020 07:38 PM |
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| I saw her Instagram and about barfed... gah, that's a nasty gash. Hope she recovers completely- mentally as well as physically. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/25/2020 08:25 PM |
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| I hope this isn't a career stop. The parallels with some other promising talents are there, e.g. Roger Rivere and Tyler Phinney. She is a once in generation talent for US cycling, male or female. I had the pleasure of watching her at the Richmond junior worlds 5 years ago. She dominated. She flew up the same short sharp cobbled climb near the finish that Sagan used to create a gap for his win. I happened to be right there when Chloe turned it up to eleven. Wow! Who is this kid?! I wondered. And of course she won the TT. Still fuming at the organizers of this event. Tour of Poland, TDF stage one crashorama, etc etc. The carnage this season is too high. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/25/2020 08:59 PM |
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I would say your most recent proxy is van Aert who got hooked by railing causing similar substantial injury. Look how he came back.
Organizers can’t really be blamed for stage 1 TDF but in van Aerts case last year yes. Dumoulin had good reflections on stage 1 and indicated that kind of stuff comes down to rider responsibility. I’d agree. He did berate Dauphine organizers for the nutter potholes and gravelled downhill starting the one stage were SK and others crashed. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/26/2020 09:52 AM |
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Holy cow the worlds course is awesome.
Holy cow the women’s race is boring. Another orange lock down. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/26/2020 06:08 PM |
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| Picks for Sunday? WVA or some other rider may prove me wrong, but I’m guessing the winner will not have ridden the Tour. Course is too tough to hide the fatigue. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/26/2020 06:28 PM |
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Lots of climbing. Fatigue will certainly factor.
With that sharp hill at 10 to go and then flat run to finish the winner will be someone who also does well at Liege. Good climber with a fast finish. I’d pick Valverde but he seems to lack spark I think age is finally catching up with him. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/26/2020 07:31 PM |
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I’d pick Valverde but he seems to lack spark I think age is finally catching up with him
Father Time is undefeated....no matter how good your medicine cabinet is.  |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/27/2020 09:28 AM |
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| LSD - five of six guys first over final climb came out of Tour. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/27/2020 09:40 AM |
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| Semi spoiler: Yes, I was totally wrong!! Great race, and a worthy new champion. The winning country executed their plan to perfection.
Strange suicide break before that |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/27/2020 09:40 AM |
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Chapeau, Allaphillipe!!
What a great race. |
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