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Last Post 10/21/2020 11:32 AM by 79 pmooney. 60 Replies.
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longslowdistance

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10/14/2020 08:57 PM
If this is it for Cav, I’m wondering what will his final legacy be in the pantheon of successful track riders and road field sprinters. Up there for sure. In that rarefied atmosphere, how does his career compare with Mr. 10k volts (look it up youngsters)? Zabel? Maertens? Various Flemish dopers from a few years back? I’ll put him up there, a notch below De Vlaeminck, as a preliminary. This sort of eval benefits from some time and perspective. Kudos to Cav for growing as a person during his time in the limelight.
Dale

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10/15/2020 08:57 AM
Got to see Can at the Tour of Missouri and have (around here somewhere) a water bottle he signed.
If this it it for him his retirement is well deserved, what a career.

RE: Ewan... can you imagine trying to draft him? He's so low that unless you are 4' 10" there'd be no benefit. The guy is an absolute rocket!
longslowdistance

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10/15/2020 09:22 AM
Edit to my Cav post. Meant Cipollini not classics guy De Vlaemink.
Orange Crush

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10/15/2020 09:29 AM
I read a single line somewhere that Cav may still line up for de Ronde and de Panne.

Rankings are difficult but certainly he’s had some legendary sprint battles and a long list of wins.
Cosmic Kid

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10/15/2020 10:46 AM
He was as dominant as any sprinter that I have ever seen from ~2007-2012 (take or give on either side). Moreover, he helped change the art of sprinting after the Age of Cipo where trains became the dominant form of sprinting. Sure, he had a formidable train at HTC / Columbia, but could also freelance and surf the wheels to win.

he also made aerodynamics a more critical element of sprinting.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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10/15/2020 11:19 AM
Posted By Dale Dale on 10/15/2020 08:57 AM
Got to see Can at the Tour of Missouri and have (around here somewhere) a water bottle he signed.
If this it it for him his retirement is well deserved, what a career.

RE: Ewan... can you imagine trying to draft him? He's so low that unless you are 4' 10" there'd be no benefit. The guy is an absolute rocket!

I saw that aerial highlight of him.  No way anyone was coming off that wheel! He was gone.
Orange Crush

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10/15/2020 11:53 AM
So Ewan then is the proper heir of Cavendish. Pocket rocket aerodynamic sprinting.
Dale

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10/15/2020 02:28 PM
Posted By Orange Crush on 10/15/2020 11:53 AM
So Ewan then is the proper heir of Cavendish. Pocket rocket aerodynamic sprinting.


Cut of the same cloth as far as style goes... low and fast, can win with or without a leadout train. A win is a win whether it comes from a leadout or surfing wheels.
longslowdistance

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10/18/2020 08:02 AM
F@ing race radios.
Orange Crush

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10/18/2020 08:51 AM
First time ever for a race to have father-son wins?

Awesome-yes!
longslowdistance

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10/18/2020 07:24 PM
Good day for Dutch cycling.
Still disappointed about JA's crash. That would have been an even better finale. I hope his injuries are temporary. That was a really hard fall. Stupid race radios.

I've contemplating becoming a USAC motoref. Inexcusably stupid driving took out Viviani, mainly bad luck took out JA. Either way, I would never want to be "that guy" who inadvertently affected a race, let alone took down a rider.
Orange Crush

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10/18/2020 07:34 PM
He’s just got some broken bones in his hand and will be fine. Too bad he crashed but no impact on his season as this was his last race anyway.

JA was already pulling some silly stunts in climb before crash trying to ride ledge but failing and almost crashing. He’s a very nervous rider I would not want to sit on his wheel. The crash was a series of factors coming together with motards slowing in inside instead of outside turn, WVA cutting it really close around them trying to catch a draft catching VDP almost off guard and then JA was further distracted with his radio.
longslowdistance

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10/18/2020 07:50 PM
Cyclingnews reports only some hand bone fractures, which should not affect his future as a professional cyclist. That's a bit of good news. His right hand is injured. If this is his dominant hand, he may experience some lifelong mild disability at fine motor skills. Regardless, sucks because this should not have happened.
I'll wager he was in a justifiably foul mood at the local hospital. Hope he was kind to the staff, it wasn't their fault. If he was a good sport, I hope this gets out, would be a well deserved consolation for what was taken away today.
79pmooney

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10/18/2020 08:21 PM
I'd love to see Alaphillippe become the vocal advocate of banning race radios. For the next eleven months, he is the most visible rider in the sport.
Cosmic Kid

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10/18/2020 08:44 PM
It really wasn’t the race radio’s fault, it was JA’s....he wasn’t paying attention.

He could have just as easily been looking down at his computer or reaching into his jersey for a gel and the same result would have occurred.

Great race...bummed we were robbed of a bit of seeing the 3 strongest riders fighting it out to the line, but it was still awesome.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
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