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longslowdistance

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08/14/2021 08:57 PM
Great opening TT. Hoping for great things from Bardet.
zootracer

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08/15/2021 02:40 PM
Yeah, usually skip time trials. Watched the whole thing...
Cosmic Kid

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08/24/2021 06:51 PM
Crazy stage today…Roglic attacks out of nowhere and looks to out the whole race on ice, but crashes on the descent…remains to be seen how badly he is injured, I guess, but could he have put the whole race in jeopardy now?

And STILL Bernal and Yates managed to lose time….
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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08/24/2021 06:58 PM
I don't think there are any significant consequences for Roglic other than maybe some hurt pride. But could have ended a lot worse.

Surprised to see Mas hanging in there for so long. Maybe things are finally coming together for him. Sucked the way Valverde had to exit the race the other day. Same with Bardet.

Bernal has two good excuses, his back and the Covid episode which is affecting his fitness. Yates not so much. Kruiswijk also had Covid, maybe why he is continuing to ride sub-par. Kuss looks to be on the up and up as support for Roglic.
longslowdistance

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08/24/2021 08:50 PM
Thanks for this update. Roglic went down at speed, I was concerned about the potential injuries.
Valverde's crash really sucked. An all time great, on his last go round, gets dumped into the blender by a stupid rock in the road. If his line was 1 cm different he would have been fine. Beyond unjust, just plain cruel !

Just one more comment: I NEVER thought I'd say this, but the NBCSN commentary with Bobke and VdV is better than the never ending chatter on the full time stream. The female color commentator is smart and can add a lot, but she supplies too much chatter soley to fill in the dead space, and the play by play guy could be good but is just plain irritating because his speculations attempting to make every little develpment into something big is dumb. It makes paul and phil bingo enticing by comparison. Would be fine if they just watched the race a bit in silence, or discussed from 10k feet, i.e. the Vuelta was here when Ocana was a pup. the olive oil here is good, this is where the spanish inquisition happened etc . I miss Sean Kelly, who could just watch a race with us, and add his insights when appropriate, which was never continuously.
Orange Crush

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08/24/2021 09:53 PM
I was recently exposed to Chris Horner podcast analyses of tour stages. Holy cow dude, talk about misplaced over analysis with the hindsight of knowing who ended up winning and losing. I had to tell my friend to switch them off. Could not stomach them over breakfast or any other time of day for that matter.
Cosmic Kid

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08/25/2021 09:00 AM
The female color commentator is smart and can add a lot, but she supplies too much chatter soley to fill in the dead space, and the play by play guy could be good but is just plain irritating because his speculations attempting to make every little develpment into something big is dumb.


hannah Walker is quite good, IMO....and having a unique voice commentating is a great change. Anthony McCrossen is OK, but very monotone. Agreed 100% that he tries to make everything seem more important than it is...every move is a "big attack", even if it is just a guy moving to the front.

But I'll take him any day over Bobke and VdV.....
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
zootracer

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08/25/2021 10:14 AM
Try watching an NFL game....
Cosmic Kid

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08/25/2021 10:47 AM
Welp....guess we have our answer re: any lingering effects from Rog's crash yesterday!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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08/25/2021 11:13 AM
Clearly no side effects for Roglic from yesterday's slide. Mas is looking really good though. Lopez also not far behind so between the two of them Movistar can still make it interesting.
Cosmic Kid

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08/25/2021 02:45 PM
Agreed re: Mas....he actually looked stronger than Roglic on the climb today, but got outmaneuvered.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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08/25/2021 07:08 PM
What was the conversation when Roglic and Mas dialed it down for a few hundred meters, when it was clear they were head and shoulders above the rest of the field? Should we let this poor guy in pink win? May the best man win? Loser buys the beer tonight?
Whatever it was, the show of respect after the drag race to the line was impressive.
Orange Crush

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08/25/2021 07:38 PM
I think Mas was trying to drop Roglic realized it wasn’t happening, decided he didn’t want to pace him to line either so they stalled. Either way the outcome was inevitable hard to beat Roglic on a finish like that.
longslowdistance

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08/25/2021 08:08 PM
Still gotta acknowledge the shows of respect after the finish - but supporting your theory more from Mas
Orange Crush

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08/25/2021 08:27 PM
Yes nice embrace at the end. Also nice nudge by Mas where the barriers narrowed on bottom part of climb “hey I’m still here Rog, don’t close me in”.
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