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Worlds - who do you have
Last Post 10/26/2021 11:15 AM by Orange Crush. 71 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid

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09/19/2021 06:24 PM
LOL, Dale…

Pondered it a bit today and came to the conclusion that it is a moot point. Wout’s bike is not available in a non-disc version so there is no “penalty”. The bike is what the bike is….he could not choose to use rim brakes.

Plus it has always tested fast AF and was “optimized” around discs from the beginning.

*shrug*
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longslowdistance

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09/19/2021 09:41 PM
Wow. Pundits were on. WVA is my top pick for the BIG show next weekend.
We all know a one day RR has a lottery component on most courses. Not Merckx in 2014, salut Montreal, but most years. PS Breaking Bad is worth anyone's binge time. Really that good, maybe the best TV series ever. Really. And maybe also worthy of your time is Ted Lasso, an uplift to the viewer's spirits and an uppercut to the Devil's jaw.
Cosmic Kid

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09/20/2021 09:18 AM
Saw an analysis somewhere that the 5" difference amounted to ~1.2W over that course.

If accurate, then had there been a rim brake version of Wout's P5 available 9and assuming it was optimized for rim brakes), it could in theory have made the difference.
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6ix

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09/20/2021 10:23 AM
Since INEOS is switching to disc 'finally' next year, Wout should win rainbow in 2022 against Ganna since they will both be equally handicapped by the dumbest bike feature in decades. Actually, that article on CyclingNews should really say INEOS is switching reluctantly to disc. The pro's have pushed back on discs for years but the industry steamrolled over them.

And the wheel keeps turning...ting ting ting.
Orange Crush

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09/20/2021 10:59 AM
Interesting though that for Ineos the delay has been because they wanted their bikes to be as close to UCI weight limit as possible, not a mention about aero. Still like the rim brakes on my road bike but every other bike has discs, no questions asked that its superior. Hell, I would not have been riding the bumper of car in front of me on downhill commute this morning with rim brakes, hahaha,
Cosmic Kid

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09/20/2021 11:21 AM
Interesting though that for Ineos the delay has been because they wanted their bikes to be as close to UCI weight limit as possible, not a mention about aero


This is what always cracks me up about Ineos and their claims of "marginal gains"....they have the WORST equipment sponsors and choices. Pinarellos are tanks, hence the reason they are still riding rim brakes....to keep them as light as possible. Plus they aren't particularly aero, either.

And don't even get me started on their choice of Lightweight wheels for mountain stages....
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longslowdistance

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09/20/2021 09:38 PM
Brakes in a TT? I am missing something
longslowdistance

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09/20/2021 09:38 PM
To be clear tongue in cheek but really?
Orange Crush

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09/20/2021 09:53 PM
Speaking about tongue in cheek, van Aert cannot become world champion this year simply because he looks splendid in those Belgian champ colours. If he threatens to win someone put a stick in his spokes.
6ix

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09/21/2021 09:08 AM
Don't worry OC, he has 2nd place locked up.
6ix

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09/21/2021 09:14 AM
Seeing Wout be an astounding climber, time-trialist, one-day racer and sprinter makes me think something is going on.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/david-lappartient-riders-are-sharing-rumours-of-new-doping-techniques-they-feel-there-is-a-gap
Cosmic Kid

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09/21/2021 12:57 PM
I'd be lying if I said the same thoughts had not occurred to me.....but I am more suspicious of Pog & Rog than I am of Wout (At least for now)
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Orange Crush

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09/21/2021 06:19 PM
I am sure there is still stuff going on.

But not sure I put much stock in peloton rumours. There was rumours too about strange noises and new propulsion being used to cheat. Which I think could be traced to teams in question having started waxing their chains.
Cosmic Kid

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09/21/2021 06:40 PM
Hmmmm…having ridden waxed chains, I can say that they are pretty damn quiet.

At least if done properly.

But yeah, I don’t put much stock into those rumors about weird noises coming from the bikes.
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Orange Crush

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09/21/2021 07:25 PM
No experience but I thought they run quietly after a brief break in period?
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