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Last Post 08/06/2013 01:26 PM by ChinookPass .. 5 Replies.
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Ride On

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08/05/2013 05:38 PM
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Ride On

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08/05/2013 05:48 PM
You are the race promoter and you spent a ton of time, money and taken risks, made promises and do really want this ? It is not your battle. You need riders to show up. They attract people. People bring in $ that you need.

If you are a rider do you want to show up to an event where you are a little unsure what they are going to test for ? Sure sure you are clean but why risk it ? There are plenty of other races you could do.

As a race promoter I would think he/she is sitting there saying dude just shut up. Yes you want a clean race but at this point a few weeks out you need to have a race or you are doomed. I would think Tygart is doing him no favors. You want the talk to be about the race not more drug testing.

USADA CEO Travis Tygart has spoken of his frustration with what he believes is ongoing, inadequate testing at the top US cycling events, suggesting that the UCI is deliberately holding back on the type and number of tests in order to avoid awkward positives.

The claim comes sixteen days before the start of the USA Pro Cycling Challenge, with Tygart saying that requests to carry out testing at that race have been denied.

“We are going to have the USA Pro Cycling Challenge happen here in a couple of weeks. It’s one of the biggest races in the United States, and absolutely the biggest race in Colorado. Yet the independent agency based in Colorado [USADA - ed.] - which runs the programme for the Olympic movement which is also based in Colorado - is not doing the testing, because the UCI refuses to give up the control.

“We are confident, just like in seasons past, there won’t be CIR testing [a more precise screen for testosterone – ed.], there won’t be human growth hormone testing, there won’t be EPO testing. It is a charade,” he told VeloNation.

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15146/Tygart-blasts-UCI-over-refusal-to-let-USADA-do-tests-at-the-USA-Pro-Cycling-Challenge-and-other-top-events.aspx#ixzz2b8JNpD5G
ChinookPass

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08/05/2013 06:06 PM
No tears for the race promoter. Testing is not new. It may not ultimately be their responsibility, but it is in their best interest to have a the event go off without controversy.

So they have two options:
1. sweep the testing under the rug and hope no one notices. I would argue this what they due for California, Utah, and Colorado.

2. Take responsibility and see that sufficient testing is carried out. Doesn't ASO take this approach by making sure the AFLD is involved in the Tour?

IMO, TT is doing his job and throwing a hissy fit brings at least some attention to the issue.
Ride On

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08/06/2013 06:27 AM
You are the promoter trying to sell a product

1) You promote your race as the cleanest ever. 10x the testing of any other race. Testing for things no other race tests for. You are the king of testing.

2) You promote your race as exciting. Great scenery. Worlds best riders. Hard climbs. Fast sprint finishes

To the general public, which one are you going to want to see? As a promoter I think it is a pretty easy call. Sure you want a clean race with no trouble, but testing is not what you are promoting to the public. It isn't what sells your race. It might sell ad space to the papers and networks covering sports, but it sure doesn't help sell your race.

You know the old saying, walk a mile in the other guys shoes.
Master50

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08/06/2013 10:03 AM
You don't suppose that maybe you have been reading too many forum posts on the UCI not testing credibly? The samples go to the same lab as USADA would use. In general the same riders are tested except perhaps for targeted riders and yes they do target riders.
The General public does not know or care that there is a difference since to them it is the same thing. If you think that testing legitimizes a sport, do you explain all of the negative tests on corruption or maybe the tests simply cannot detect all illegal substances.
Seems much ado about nothing to me.
ChinookPass

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08/06/2013 01:26 PM
RideOn, #2 is short term thinking but it seems to be working for the big North American stage races. The public is just not emotionally invested in clean racing when it's in their town and their chance to see their heroes up close. It's probably up to the "minor league" players to make a stink about testing but no one is really listening to them either.

Over the long term, the sport suffers when it is not perceived as being legitimate and we keep having to revive the reputation of the sport when the inevitable scandal surfaces. Yeah, there is some pain in the short term due to testing costs and dealing with the positives. Blame goes all around to the UCI, the federation, and the promoter for continuing to run things this way.
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