Inferno7
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| 07/05/2014 11:54 AM |
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Sorry Paul there was no gap. Simon wasn't closing the door on anybody, Cav tried to push him out of the way, and he paid the price.
Tell it like it is! |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/05/2014 12:11 PM |
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Sucks for Cav, but I didn't see anyone do anything wrong (even Cav). That is just bike racing sometimes.
WTF was Froome thinking sprinting for 6th? His whole race could have ended today.
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| Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
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Orange Crush
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| 07/05/2014 12:17 PM |
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| Looked to me Cav was on the edge trying to hold on and slightly lost his balance, leaning left on Gerrans who already had a guy to his left. Gerrans got squeezed, crashed, taking out the three of them. No ones fault really, certainly not Gerrans. |
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huckleberry
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| 07/05/2014 12:36 PM |
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| Cav is generally quite assertive and aggressive, as well as most sprinters - it just bit him in the ass today. |
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Dale
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| 07/05/2014 01:05 PM |
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When he was so much faster than everyone else his erratic riding was out front and away from the main body of the field. Now that he's not as dominant his argy-bargy gets him in trouble.
Huck is right, most sprinters are pretty aggressive.
You know what a timid sprinter is called? Pack-fill |
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jmdirt
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| 07/05/2014 01:16 PM |
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What happened to Talansky?
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Oldfart
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| 07/05/2014 01:35 PM |
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| I couldn't see what happened in the replays. The film didn't go back enough. I read a post that said a French rider hooked bars with Gerrans pushing him into Cavendish. |
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jmdirt
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| 07/05/2014 01:35 PM |
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| cyclingnews had him 3+ minutes back, but velonews is showing him :00 back. Maybe he was behind the crash (hopefully not in the crash) so his chip had the actual time, but since it was within 3K its same time. |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/05/2014 01:50 PM |
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Some podium girl
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Inferno7
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| 07/05/2014 02:25 PM |
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| Rough Racing no doubt, not enough space. The better play would have been to wait a millisecond and let SG pass and grab his wheel. Like I know, but just sayin. It does suck for Cav and the race. Bummer! |
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Oldfart
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| 07/05/2014 02:31 PM |
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| Saw a gif on Peleton. Cav is pushing Gerrans. Gerrans gets hip checked by a Europecar rider, Cav goes down. I don't think anyone is at fault. Just sprinting in a crowd. |
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Oldfart
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| 07/05/2014 02:35 PM |
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| http://pelotonmagazine.com/uncategorized/cav-crashes-kittel-takes-stage-one/ |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/05/2014 04:02 PM |
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| Talansky apparently had a flat in the last 3k. His official time should get adjusted. |
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Ride On
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| 07/05/2014 07:37 PM |
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WTF was Froome thinking sprinting for 6th? His whole race could have ended today
In my book he moved up a couple of notches. One more TDF win or a chance to get on the podium with a princess, I'd say sprint brother sprint. Smart man. |
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longslowdistance
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| 07/05/2014 08:27 PM |
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| AC sprains hurt like hell, but all do well in the long run (6 months). A shot into the joint can make it hurt less but that's probably not allowed. Unless his shoulder has asthma, then he gets a medical exception. |
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Nick A
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| 07/05/2014 09:24 PM |
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From my vantage point (whatever that's worth), it looked like Cav's "fault", in that he instigated the chain reaction, but not necessarily the most blatant move in the world either.
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Nick A
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| 07/05/2014 09:28 PM |
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And since we're in spoilage mode: Was fun to see two "old dogs" have their day, even if Cancellara's was only for a moment. When my wife asked, I told her, it was a low percentage move, but higher since he was making it.
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JS
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| 07/05/2014 10:26 PM |
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| It was blatantly obvious it was Cav's fault and he's admitted to it, what the hell were you guys watching? Frrome was sprinting for car position for tomorrow which with the narrow roads is a big concern for the GC guys. |
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huckleberry
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| 07/05/2014 11:19 PM |
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Just gained a bit of respect for Cav in his admittal...
http://www.omegapharma-quickstep.com/en/news/show/mark-cavendish-update/1826 |
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Entheo
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| 07/06/2014 08:16 AM |
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| and Oh Bobke, who continues his ways as Apologist in Chief at the pre-stage 2 commentary this morning, switching now from LA to Cav. it should be a great tour, but the thought of having to listen to him, liggett and sherwen for 3 weeks sends a shiver down my spine. |
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Dale
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| 07/06/2014 09:07 AM |
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If you're not following LUG you missed this gem penned by one of the followers:
The Ballad of Cav’
(Sung to The Beatles’ “Yesterday”)
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
I had visions of the Champs-Élysées
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Suddenly, I am battling with Simon G
Tried to ride where I shouldn’t be
Oh, yesterday ended suddenly
Why I had to go I don’t know it was my play
I did something wrong, now I long for yesterday
Yesterday, sprinting was my one mainstay
Now my shoulder is in disarray
Oh, WTF was yesterday
Why I had to go I don’t know it was my play
I did something wrong, now I long for yesterday
Yesterday, sprinting was my one mainstay
Now my shoulder is in disarray
Oh, WTF was yesterday
Mm mm mm mm mm mm mm |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/06/2014 11:14 AM |
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Interesting comparison has been made between Cav and Suarez (don't tell me you don't know who Suarez is).
Both extremely talented guys with their heart and priorities in the right place but the occasional mean streak in competitive situations when things don't go their way.
The end point of that comparison is of course the lengthy ban Suarez received. |
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longslowdistance
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| 07/06/2014 11:25 AM |
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| Watching today's finale. Too much motor pacing by the camera motos! |
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Keith Richards
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| 07/07/2014 08:43 AM |
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Speaking yesterday, Cavendish said: "I'm gutted about the crash today. It was my fault. I'll personally apologise to Simon Gerrans as soon as I get the chance.
"In reality, I tried to find a gap that wasn't really there. I wanted to win today, I felt really strong and was in a great position to contest the sprint thanks to the unbelievable efforts of my team.
That is really all there is to say, innit? |
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It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong. |
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thinline
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| 07/07/2014 11:48 AM |
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| Cav seems to be maturing a bit as time passes. He still forces the issue at times, and I get why this year, but at least he now acknowledges responsibility when it is his to bear. A few years ago it would have been wanker this wanker that I got railroaded etc. I actually feel badly for the guy even if it was his fault. |
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79pmooney
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| 07/08/2014 02:04 AM |
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The Ballard of Cav made my day yesterday!
Ben |
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