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| 05/13/2015 01:31 PM |
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surprised we dont have one of these already.
Berto threw down a little opening salvo today on stage 5. He feels good and attacks -- gotta love his style. And have to say Aru looked very good covering. Race is getting exciting! Loving the Giro!!!
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| 05/13/2015 02:21 PM |
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The Giro was lost by many yesterday (surprise surprise) and today (predictable). We're down to three main contenders although Uran may be able to claw back.
Jersey zippers can be telling...attacking, marking (comfortably) and hanging in there
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| 05/13/2015 02:50 PM |
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| OC - very neat observation. Look at those zippers. pretty interesting. |
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| 05/14/2015 12:00 PM |
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oh Alberto -- this does not look good. I hope thats not a broken collar bone.
http://www.steephill.tv/players/youtube3/?title=Alberto+Contador+injured+in+finish+crash;+unable+to+don+leader%27s+jersey&dashboard=giro-d-italia&id=0G6PrP-Q7tA&yr=2015 |
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| 05/14/2015 12:15 PM |
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| That does not look good. |
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| 05/14/2015 12:24 PM |
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| theyre saying it was a temporary disclocation of his shoulder. Painful as sheet, But maybe he can continue?!?! |
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Orange Crush
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| 05/14/2015 12:50 PM |
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| Just like that...bike racing can be brutal. And another spectator caused crash (camera this time) after the one where a numbskull entered the peleton on a coaster bike. |
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stronz
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| 05/14/2015 01:14 PM |
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| theyre saying it was a temporary disclocation of his shoulder. Painful as sheet, But maybe he can continue?!?!
Ok I think i said that already...ooops |
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| 05/14/2015 01:27 PM |
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Pretty sure he'll start tomorrow, finishing tomorrow is something else.
Pain like that you're situational awareness is shot which means you're bound to crash again. Any normal workplace (or sport) they'd tell you to stay home for health and safety reasons. |
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| 05/14/2015 02:32 PM |
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| well -- If he drops out thats good news for Aru and Porte. Bad news for Quintana and Froome. Added motivation for AC in July |
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| 05/15/2015 08:03 AM |
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| Damn hate to see him go down like that. Props for starting the day, my hope is he finishes! |
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| 05/15/2015 08:19 AM |
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AC got off easy.....this guy? Ouch. I don't think it is supposed to bend that way.
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| 05/15/2015 10:12 AM |
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AC is hosed and may be for July, too.
Stupid spectators are injuring riders and ruining the races |
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Orange Crush
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| 05/15/2015 03:52 PM |
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| That guys arm still worked good enough to give a big middle finger salute from hospital bed towards the camera goof. |
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| 05/16/2015 10:19 AM |
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| Yep that's what I thought I saw happen live, poor guy. |
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Gonzo Cyclist
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| 05/18/2015 04:45 PM |
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Can Contador survive? If he wins this thing with his shoulder like that, would anyone ever question his
toughness?
second question, can Aru TT? We know Porte can, just not sure about Fabio |
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| 05/18/2015 09:05 PM |
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| Remember Tyler Transfusion getting 4th in the Tour and winning a stage in epic fashion despite a broken collarbone? With chemical help a lot is possible. |
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| 05/19/2015 11:53 AM |
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holy crap cosmic, I can' t hardly look at that for any more than a split second
AC still hanging tough, but can he keep Aru at bay? Astana is looking strong also.. |
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| 05/19/2015 12:23 PM |
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According to Contador's doc, the most restful place Contador can place his arm is on the bike. That and the only painkillers he is getting are over the counter, that they had no plans to apply for a TUE. Apparently riding in the saddle, he is quite comfortable. Also that hard efforts may take a toll, but he certainly can do it. See the photo of him going flat out on Aru's wheel when Aru took that second from him. He is also sleeping well. All bad news for his rivals.
I think their best chance at this crash being a large factor is if Contador wins a stage, forgets and does a victory salute. (Left arm extending past 90 degrees - verbooten!) He will open up his TT stance a little. Same lean forward but the arms a little wider apart, so that should cost him a few seconds. So his rivals probably won't see a Giro ending salute Saturday.
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| 05/19/2015 01:24 PM |
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| http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-richie-porte-docked-two-minutes |
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| 05/19/2015 02:26 PM |
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| nailed by twitter. Jesus these riders are like teenage girls with their twitter addiction. |
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| 05/19/2015 06:04 PM |
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| LOL....well, it seems there were pics floating around too, but yeah, Porte didn't do himself any favors with that tweet!! |
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| 05/19/2015 07:05 PM |
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Sky should be embarrassed , Your team leader needs to get a spare wheel from a guy on another team ? Protecting your GC leader is pretty high up there in terms of things to do on a flat stage. Who's job was it to look after him ? Shouldn't there have been a Sky rider near enough to give him a wheel? Two riders , three ? Where the heck was everyone on Sky ?
I bet part of this was pay back for the time Richie went back and got a bottle for Chris in the tour inside the no hand up zone and they got away with it. The hammer came down this time. |
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| 05/19/2015 08:10 PM |
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| Once that tweet went out, it was hard for the organizers to ignore it. Generally if they can give you the benefit of the doubt, they will, like with mechanics holding onto the bikes while "fixing" a derailleur and such, however the pics and the tweet left no doubt and hard to pretend it didn't happen. |
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| 05/20/2015 07:58 AM |
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| soo....lets say the GC riders get together and lets just say they let Porte go into a break that finishes oh say around 2 minutes ahead of the peleton today or tomorrow..... is that kosher? is it even possible? is it sporting fraud???? I wonder. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 05/20/2015 08:06 AM |
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Holy hell.....Porte is a moron. Anyone notice the guy in the foreground of the pic?
Dyot. He deserves the penalty.
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| 05/20/2015 08:12 AM |
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there's obviously a sky rider in the right side of the picture.
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| 05/20/2015 08:30 AM |
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The rules are the rules, to wit:
"First, technical assistance between opposing teams is explicitly forbidden by the rules."
The rest is just blather.
Neither Porte, Clarke, nor the (non) attending Sky rider knew the rules?
Unless Clarke had 'ulterior motives' - which seems unlikely - Porte has nobody to blame but himself.
I'd be interested in seeing comments from Hinault or Cadel Evans....
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Master50
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| 05/21/2015 01:19 AM |
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I usually look at these from the eyes of an official. I spent more than 25 years as a commissaire. the jury had no choice. twitter had it everywhere and the rules have no wiggle room at least for the jury. all that said I appreciate the warm and fuzzy with regard to fellow countrymen but what other sport tolerates assistance from their opponents to beat them? at worlds we have national teams and there is often complaints of team affiliations corrupting the result? who can we have it both ways?
this is not a fondo, it is a race where Orica and sky are opponents. an Orica rider forgets his team affiliation and contract. he puts friendship ahead of his team. I get that but it is not the spirit of competition. To me it is a clear violation of the rules but even more so the spirit of competition. Maybe not the spirit if sportsmanship which is really related to sport but not with intent to win. Cycling by its nature is very complex in this relationship simply because it is one of the few sports where your chance of victory often depends on cooperation of opposing teams. all that said it is clear there was a Sky rider present to provide Porte with a wheel. |
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| 05/21/2015 09:30 AM |
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What Master50 said...
There are loads of rules that may or may not make sense-- infield fly rule, designated batter, junior gearing and football (hand-egg) inflation range but as long as they are there; well, ignore them/ violate them and suffer the consequences. |
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| 05/21/2015 11:20 AM |
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| well moving right along -- Contador showed some real chops today finding 17 seconds over Aru and I dont know what over Porte -- what happened in that last km? Everyone is together in the Maglia rosa group at around 700meters and then AC finishes second to Gilbert with big gaps at the finish and there's no SKYrider in the top ten and Aru fades big time.... wow. |
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| 05/21/2015 11:50 AM |
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| Friendship (mates) sure but I am also thinking it perhaps sheds some light on where Porte may ride next year. He said in 2013 he'd serve his Sky contract until 2015 and then look for sole leadership role elsewhere. Orica would be good fit. |
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| 05/21/2015 02:57 PM |
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| BTW - is DonnaMobile going to provide us with any insights this year? We have entered the Veneto region I believe. |
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Gonzo Cyclist
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| 05/21/2015 03:17 PM |
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AC put the hurt on Aru today, this pic on this page says it all.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/aru-puts-on-a-brave-face-after-a-losing-time-to-contador-at-the-giro-ditalia
what is up with Astana's riding? What was Kangert doing out there up front?
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| 05/21/2015 06:46 PM |
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| Thanks for the link. That photo should show up on memes for years to come ("you think you had a bad day at work?" etc.) |
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Master50
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| 05/21/2015 09:24 PM |
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| I wanted to ask here too what if clarke did this during stage 4 given Clarke wore the Pink at the end of that stage? I would bet the conversation wold be very different and brailsford would be buying Clarke a ticket home. |
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stronz
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| 05/22/2015 11:39 AM |
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| Wow -- the fickel finger of fate strikes the flattest stage -- And AC loses all that neato time he grabbed yesterday. Well if its anything this Giro has been unpredictable == fun starts tomorrow. |
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| 05/22/2015 07:05 PM |
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Yes, Orange Crush, the Giro is indeed in my adopted home region, the Veneto, and I am there! Hope the tv/streaming coverage includes some aerial images of our beautiful region. Four stage victories have been won by riders from the Veneto: Viviani, Formolo, Boem, and now Modolo, so everyone is excited about that. I liked Modolo's post race comments: "I have always said that I don't consider myself a great champion or an exceptional natural talent. In my first year, I was fourth in Milano-Sanremo, and I still have no idea how I did it. The result was that you journalists expect so much more of me."
Too bad, though, that the weather is disrupting everyone's viewing plans. I was on Monte Berico yesterday, under the arcade (where I stayed dry but couldn't see much) and today went to see the race pass quickly through my husband's home town. Tomorrow I will be somewhere along the TT route, probably in Guia, but I don't have a plan how to get there. Riding there in the rain and then standing around for hours is not enticing, so maybe I will drive part way then walk. Sunday the race starts in nearby Marostica, a picturesque walled city, so I will go to the start and maybe drive ahead of the race to where the climbing starts.
As for the TT course, I ride on those roads all the time and know them well. There are a lot of little uphill sections followed by fast descents with numerous curves, so it is going to be very tricky, even more so with wet roads. It's impossible to get into a rhythm, so it’s not one for the TT specialists.
Funny thing about Aru's time gain today. He said "I was always at the front, in a good position to avoid possible falls, and what happened, happened." There's always talk of good luck and bad luck, but good "luck" is often the result of good judgment and anticipation/preparation, and bad "luck" can often be, indirectly, a person's own fault. |
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| 05/22/2015 07:05 PM |
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Yes, Orange Crush, the Giro is indeed in my adopted home region, the Veneto, and I am there! Hope the tv/streaming coverage includes some aerial images of our beautiful region. Four stage victories have been won by riders from the Veneto: Viviani, Formolo, Boem, and now Modolo, so everyone is excited about that. I liked Modolo's post race comments: "I have always said that I don't consider myself a great champion or an exceptional natural talent. In my first year, I was fourth in Milano-Sanremo, and I still have no idea how I did it. The result was that you journalists expect so much more of me."
Too bad, though, that the weather is disrupting everyone's viewing plans. I was on Monte Berico yesterday, under the arcade (where I stayed dry but couldn't see much) and today went to see the race pass quickly through my husband's home town. Tomorrow I will be somewhere along the TT route, probably in Guia, but I don't have a plan how to get there. Riding there in the rain and then standing around for hours is not enticing, so maybe I will drive part way then walk. Sunday the race starts in nearby Marostica, a picturesque walled city, so I will go to the start and maybe drive ahead of the race to where the climbing starts.
As for the TT course, I ride on those roads all the time and know them well. There are a lot of little uphill sections followed by fast descents with numerous curves, so it is going to be very tricky, even more so with wet roads. It's impossible to get into a rhythm, so it’s not one for the TT specialists.
Funny thing about Aru's time gain today. He said "I was always at the front, in a good position to avoid possible falls, and what happened, happened." There's always talk of good luck and bad luck, but good "luck" is often the result of good judgment and anticipation/preparation, and bad "luck" can often be, indirectly, a person's own fault. |
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| 05/22/2015 07:07 PM |
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| sorry for the doubt post...don't know how it happened |
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Master50
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| 05/23/2015 10:32 AM |
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Donna i went to Italy 3 years ago with my wife A simple Venice, Florence and Rome trip with a visit to Pisa and Assisi. My favourite vacation ever. I love your Country. Seems like a great way to love and live.
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Orange Crush
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| 05/23/2015 10:38 AM |
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Thanks Donna; hope you had sufficient rain gear today; that was a pretty brutal day.
As for the race, Contador seems to be having it in the bag. Yesterday was just a blip.
One of my wife's cousins and his buddies went to see race today at GUIZZO Prosecco-di-Valdobbiadene. They looked pretty toasty :-)
Gotta get out there sometime again but my wife complained the last one was too much of a guys trip...eating,drinking, biking. |
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| 05/23/2015 11:19 AM |
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| AC....AC, what can you say. Aru has issues and time to fix them career wise. |
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| 05/23/2015 06:24 PM |
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| can someone explain what hAppened to porte and uran today? wow |
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Master50
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| 05/24/2015 10:42 AM |
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Ryder comes from the same place I live so I am following his progress. At 8:05 behind he does not look like he has been dong very well. the thing is he has not had a bad day at least not related to his performance. it is all tactical. If you take the 5:35 he lost because he was sitting in the back he is up with the current GC riders after his respectable TT ride. he gained time on all but Contador who it seems has the best chance for pink.
Maybe he can parlay that deficit to a stage win or jump in GC as I am sure Tinkov will give him a big leash. I just think that if he made no tactical errors we might be paying more attention to his riding. |
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Orange Crush
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| 05/24/2015 01:08 PM |
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Ryder expended a lot of energy today with what turned out to be a relatively futile chase. What is going on with Garmin this year anyway? They don't seem to be able to make any impact anywhere.
Of the also-rans I like Kruijswijk's chances best of moving up based on two top 5 placings in last two days. But him and Ryder are probably better off chasing stage wins or mountains jersey. Beats riding around anonymously like VdB.
Stronz - Porte has a bum knee and is done. Uran has been cooked since beginning of Giro with health problems (bronchitis).
Astana seemed to be riding for Contador today; they cooked their own guy. |
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| 05/24/2015 03:37 PM |
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| Time to stick a fork in the idea of Porte being a GC contender....he simply doesn't have the make-up / recoevery for 3 weeks of racing at the front. |
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Master50
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| 05/24/2015 05:18 PM |
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| Funny Ryder commented on his luck so far. he has expended a lot of energy in 2 breaks and solo today If his luck changes for the better I think a top 10 and higher is realistic. Podium might need a lot of luck and no bad moments, never mind a bad day.
He does seem to be going well physically. I hope his last week is his best.
If he does the tour I wonder of he will bring this fitness or roll off? |
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| 05/26/2015 11:20 AM |
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| well looks like Ryder does make it into top 10 today. But AC put on a show today! Just punished everyone on the Mortirolo...Wow -- . He couldnt follow that final attack by Landa - but probably didnt have to. He burned a lot of matches thats for sure. Not sure Contadot's team has been as strong as he needed them to be tho. They couldnt close down the gap when Katusha nailed it today. Still he is so professional, in control and ready and willing to throw it down when he has to, or simply wants to. Love watching him race. Kind of the Anti-Wiggins. Couple of easier days ahead before the last two mountain top finishes. He should be able to recover a little- but you never know in this Giro. |
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| 05/26/2015 11:32 AM |
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Great ride by Kruijswijk - as predicted following the two top 5 finishes before rest day. Gone from 24th to 8th over 3 stages. But further improvement for him or for Ryder will be tough, top 6 yes but the guys higher up are still going relatively well. Better to chase that elusive stage victory or the mountains jersey. Good to see after he had some dificult years due to blocked artery.
Yeah I think Contador could have gone with Landa but chose to cruise home; put in a lot of work, he was probably hammered and still some tough days to come. He knows how to play the game better than anyone out there.
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| 05/26/2015 10:44 PM |
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| I have to ask why is Contador spending that much energy and taking such risks today to chase Hejedal down? He could have had a disaster with a flat later on after he burned his team off.
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| 05/27/2015 07:29 AM |
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I think that is just AC's mentality. He is an attacker by nature...we have seen it in the last when he has a race sewn up and he still throws the hammer down.
I also think he was pissed at Arundel and co. for attacking him when he had the flat, so once he caught that group, he was gonna make someone pay.
That said, these are not the smartest moves for a guy who also wants to be in top form in July. He really needs to soft pedal the next few days and just ride wheels. |
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Master50
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| 05/27/2015 08:59 AM |
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Yes
Looking at the online comments and again at the video it does look like Contador was on a revenge motivated ride. Even when Ryder gets a break he can't catch a break  |
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| 05/27/2015 11:26 AM |
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Yeah I think AC was totally interested in punishing those who put the pedal down when he flatted. Funny how one thinks of 2010 with the shifting failure of Andy Schleck and Contador's attack but that was ON a critical climb and Schleck and AC were kind of equals in terms of their stature in the peleton. Nowadays Contador is the closest thing to a Padrone we have had since a certain Mr Armstrong was in charge of things. So I do think it was a breach of protocol to drop Berto in the valley leading to the Mortirolo when he flatted. And I dont blame him for being pissed. I suspect he wanted the stage but either was too deep into the red or someone talked some sense to him before he tried to burn every single match staying with Landa.
Hesjedal's remarks that AC shouldnt have chased down the break missed the boat completely. AC had no interest in "the break." He was interested in punishing his closest rivals -- ie the two Astana riders and also the Trofimov guy from Katusha |
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| 05/27/2015 11:32 AM |
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Yeah Ryder made it sound as if he was personally being chased down...funny :-)
AC is merely doing what ahead of the Giro he said he'd do...I also think that when you are dealing with a much younger and punchier climber like Aru as your main contender, the best tactic is to grind him down from the start, don't wait for the final climb. Same with Porte who's recovery over three weeks was in question; I think that is why Saxo went hard in week 1; grind him down.
Asked if he would change his strategy in order to be as sharp as possible in the French event, he dismissed such thoughts.
“I could say yes, but when you are at the race you cannot ponder over anything,” he explained. “In a Grand Tour you don’t have many tactical options and I will be fully focused on the Giro.
“Then I’ll have time to concentrate on recovering ahead of the Tour and thinking about it.” |
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| 05/27/2015 06:35 PM |
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Posted By Cosmic Kid on 05/27/2015 07:29 AM
I also think he was pissed at Arundel and co. for attacking him when he had the flat, so once he caught that group, he was gonna make someone pay.
This.
Loved seeing him light it up.
"You boys started it... guess who's going to end it?" |
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| 05/28/2015 07:40 AM |
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Donna & Master50,
One day, before I die, I have to visit Italy. I love to see different places, but I hate to be away from home. As I've gotten older, I've laid some pretty deep roots...and three dogs and three cats don't help travel. I'm half Italian (more recent immigrants) and half English (way old, pre US immigrants). The Italian half is southern Italian and Sicilian, so my dream places to visit are Naples and Sicily.
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| After 25 years of officiating and work related travel I just want to stay home. Italy has been a vacation I have wanted to do for ages. Totally worth the trip and the airline drama.
I saw so many fantastically beautiful things that at least once I was completely overcome with emotion.
I promised my wife our next big trip will be southern Spain. Other than that I just like home. my last 3 vacations have been at home too. |
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| 05/28/2015 09:09 AM |
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Why is AC going off like this? he can't win the stage and he already has enough time to win the Giro.
I love his attacking style, but this move is just dumb.... |
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| 05/28/2015 09:22 AM |
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AC's in training mode and gotta sweat some of the "naughities" out before todays pee test?
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| 05/28/2015 10:47 AM |
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I do agree AC is burning a lot of matches. I think he enjoyed giving Astana a bit of their own medicine today: ie pushing hard when Landa got caught behind a crash. Once he found he had a minute plus I guess he just decided why not try to keep it.
I can understand trying to save some in the tank for July but still he needs to win this race. Taking a minute on a stage when it wasnt expected is good strategy. All he has to do on the next two mountainn top stages is mark he rivals. He probably will attack but he doesnt have to. Still this is awfully good training for the Tour |
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| 05/28/2015 12:46 PM |
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| He is riding angry. I think he is entirely focused on the Giro and he'll worry about the Tour later. I doubt that one day of attacking now will really jeopardize the Tour. I agree that he has so much in hand now that he can just follow wheels. |
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| 05/28/2015 03:37 PM |
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Its not dumb, its colourful and cycling needs it.
Smart is dull and doesn't create an engaged audience.
Either way I don't think it matters too much for Tour. The legs might feel it tomorrow but by time of Tour its only the overall 3 week effort of Giro that matters in which these kind of frivolities are just a blip. |
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| 05/28/2015 07:03 PM |
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it's been a clinic since the TT, then the puncture, and now AC is like "OK, you boys wanna throw down? Lets go, see what you got.
AC has totally separated the men from the boys, he's made Astana look silly after the trash talking by Tiralongo "we have some surprises in store for Alberto" Aru knew he was done way before he lucked out into the maglia rosa
Astana is playing kiddy games, and Alberto is playing for keeps |
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Master50
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| 05/28/2015 07:14 PM |
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| I loved the stage today. what fun to see Ryder and Contador working together. I guess we will always wonder what could have been viv a vis stage 4 time loss to Ryder but he has certainly demonstrated he is underrated and is 2012 victory was not a fluke. It certainly was a race where everything went perfect for Ryder, Ryder is the diesel and lacks punch but he puts out the watts and can do it a long time. his 3rd week capacity is really his ace. |
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stronz
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| 05/29/2015 11:51 AM |
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| well finally a relatively uneventful stage today -- Aru redeemed himself a bit. Was interesting to see that Landa controlled himself and didnt follow Aru when he went and of course Contador was brilliant to let Aru go. Rumor is that Landa wont be staying at Astana next year so he might have said screw it and gone for the win. Classy of him not to. And Ryder distinguished himself again. Up to 7th now. Pretty great. We'll see what happens on Sestriere tomorrow. Loving the Giro! |
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Orange Crush
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| 05/29/2015 12:17 PM |
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| Tomorrow will suit Landa or AC, Finistere is a brute of a climb. Aru had trouble on the steeper bits today but because the climb overall was relatively gradual he managed to make it stick. |
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Orange Crush
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| 05/30/2015 09:36 AM |
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| Finistere oh hell yeah - this Giro isn't done yet. |
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Oldfart
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| 05/30/2015 12:57 PM |
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| That was entertaining. |
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zootracer
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| 05/30/2015 08:46 PM |
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| Hell of a climb today (stage 20). Dirt road to boot. Don't know what's up with those crazy fans. I could not put up with it myself.... |
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stronz
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| 05/31/2015 06:49 PM |
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| OK -- part I done. Can he make it a double? Gonna be a tough ask I think. Better field in the tour for sure. Of course if he can do it then why not go for the triple, right Oleg? After all you are paying him a lot of money.... |
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