Paris-Roubaix (spoilers to follow, I'm sure)
Last Post 04/12/2016 12:58 PM by 79 pmooney. 49 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid

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04/06/2016 04:39 PM
Weather.com says rain for the remainder fo the week, including Sunday AM. Could be a wet one!!!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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04/06/2016 08:42 PM
Cue up Paul Simon... "slip sliding awaaaaay, slip sliding away"
Orange Crush

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04/07/2016 03:30 AM
Would have liked to ride the cobbles in rain on Sat sportif but had to return early as father in law passed away. Will need to return next year.
Red Tornado

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04/07/2016 10:17 AM
My podium: Cancellara - Stybar - Vanmarcke
Dark Horse: Boom

O.C. - Condolences to you & yours
vtguy

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04/07/2016 11:17 AM
Sorry to hear about your father in law, OC.
Orange Crush

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04/07/2016 11:39 AM
Thanks guys. The loss of a good soul aside I am majorly bummed to miss the Roubaix cyclo and then watch race. Had the form of a lifetime for April, not a pinch of pain on 227km Flanders cyclo and watching that race was spectacular. Double bummed. Instead a good old Italian style funeral w food and drink. As to Roubaix, 4mo of rain training in forecast for next winter "I will be back". There was a death during Flanders cyclo too, heart attack for 53yr old from Ireland on Kwaremont. Oh and watch Boom, he's on hot form but has beem missing luck.
ChinookPass

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04/07/2016 12:41 PM
Bummer all around, OC.
SideBySide

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04/07/2016 02:02 PM
Condolences OC.
Dale

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04/07/2016 08:23 PM
Sorry, OC.
Orange Crush

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04/08/2016 05:05 AM
Thanks guys but carry on with the usual P-R spoiler business, this wasn't meant to be a thread hijack.

Boom, Stybar, Cancelarra.
ChinookPass

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04/08/2016 10:07 AM
I might root for EQS, they are the underdogs these days.
Kristoff, Terpstra, Stybar
longslowdistance

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04/08/2016 12:48 PM
I'm rooting for mud. When's was the last wet PR?
Cosmic Kid

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04/09/2016 10:43 PM
Last wet one was 2002 (Hincqpie sliding off into the ditch)....but looks like it is gonna be dry now. Bummer.

My condolences, OC.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 07:37 AM
Looks like the gaunlet is being thrown down early
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 07:58 AM
Sagan and Canc are getting stuck with the bill for the crash-caused field split.
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 07:59 AM
Specifically Boonen is hammering it and making the rest work early. Probably too early but good for him.
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 08:00 AM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 04/08/2016 12:48 PM
I'm rooting for mud. When's was the last wet PR?

If you are "rooting" properly?, aren't you in mud?  Edit:  I keep thinking pigs and truffles.

Ben
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 08:04 AM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 04/10/2016 07:58 AM
Sagan and Canc are getting stuck with the bill for the crash-caused field split.

I wondered about Sagan's decision to ride his custom to the first pave and swap bikes.  My first thought - dumb!  How can Sagan hit the cobbles anywhere near the front after a bike swap?  The field is hardly going to let him go up the road so he can do that switch and come back to the front.  It's looking like E-QS knew this all along and decided that Sagan was going to pay for this strategy.

Ben
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 08:05 AM
Playing the Tony Martin card. That's quite a card. Take that, Mr. Rainbow Stripes and Sparticus.
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 08:15 AM
I wonder if Cancellara was hang back a little to better keep an eye on Sagan after his bike swap; that leading to both being behind the crash. if so, this is shouting out the old maxim - "keep it simple, stupid!" Could this be one of the most costly planned bike changes ever?

Ben
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 08:23 AM
Any sign of Boom?

Tried to ride gloveless like Boonen in RVV cyclo for about 10k (switching between winter gloves and regular ones). Nah- that hurt on those cobbles.
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 08:33 AM
Mavic "neutral" moto paces Vanmacke back up to the leaders. BS
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 08:42 AM
Skybots don't do mud
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 08:46 AM
Terpstra is sitting pretty in Sagan, Cance group.
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 08:46 AM
It may not be raining, but CK can take solace; the Skyes are falling.

Ben
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 08:48 AM
Posted By Orange Crush on 04/10/2016 08:46 AM
Terpstra is sitting pretty in Sagan, Cance group.

My thought exactly.  Cance and Sagan may be quite a bit stronger than Terpstra, but towing that guy around for hours?

Ben
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 08:52 AM
Did you see Sagan bunny hop over Cance as he crashed. WOW!
Game over Spartacus.
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 08:54 AM
And Sagan, too.
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 09:25 AM
Not hearing of flats so far this year. Maybe because the riders have gone to fatter tires?
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 09:30 AM
I read that Sagan is on 30c's.
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 09:43 AM
Go Boonen! I won't say he is in control of this race, but if you asked him last week if where he is now is OK, I doubt if he would say "no".

Ben
longslowdistance

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04/10/2016 10:05 AM
Tom did the most work in the breakaway. Great final 5k.
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 10:09 AM
Dang, bummer for Boonen but he's come a long way.
79pmooney

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04/10/2016 12:43 PM
Boonen may not have won, but that has to be one of his classiest rides ever. And to do that with his recent past? He just went up a notch in my book.

Ben
zootracer

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04/10/2016 05:53 PM
I was on my feet when they entered the velodrome. Thought Boonen was going to take it. Long day in the saddle. Good thing I set my DVR to record 30 min over, otherwise I would have missed the finish...
Gonzo Cyclist

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04/10/2016 06:52 PM
too bad for Boonen, that guy was right there, great form, pretty funny consdering everyone was writing him off, too bad he did not get number five, tat truly would have been epic. Paris-Roubaix, what a great race, but an be so cruel at times. But when the stars and fates perfectly line up, can be so wonderful
Sagan's bunny hop over Fabian was crazy!! Surprised he did not go down, bad spill for Rowe and Terpstra. Any word on Viviani? read he had to go to the hopspital.
Orange Crush

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04/10/2016 07:27 PM
Cue CK comment on Hayman's aero bike
Cosmic Kid

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04/10/2016 08:27 PM
Nah....don't think it made a difference. That was just smart riding by Hayman. Some of the aerogeeks on ST tried to make the case that it mattered, but I don't think there is anyway you can realistically make that determination.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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04/11/2016 09:17 AM
Being aero helps less when drafting, which he did a LOT of in the winning break during the final 10 k or so. He only saw the front when they weren't going hard or at the end with that great attack. Smart racing.
Cosmic Kid

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04/11/2016 11:10 AM
I din't think he was really under any obligation to pull in the last 10K....he had been in the break since god knows when (he was in the group that Boonen's group eventually bridged up to) and had done a fair amount of work then. He also tried a solo move when the Boonen group was getting close to his group.

As noted, it was smart racing. Did the aero bike help? SOme would argue that he saved some energy as a result of the frame throughout the entire day. Some would then counter that by saying "well, the designs of the other bikes helped those riders save energy while on the cobbles"....

IN the end, the smartest rider won the day....
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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04/11/2016 11:44 AM
On another note I crashed like Spartacus yesterday although under different circumstances. Moment's inattention and I plowed through a series of those annoying flexing bollards that are supposed to protect us from cars but are more a nuisance than anything else. Must have hit half a dozen of them before I went flying at full speed, suspect chain catching one of them is what finally did me in. Hurting a bit and lost some blood but all good. Rode another 100k after and commuted to work today.

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79pmooney

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04/11/2016 12:02 PM
I'm not picturing those bollards catching your chain. What we have in places are plastic flaps sticking up, roughly the size and shape of a playing card. Annoying to hit but that is about it. Are yours like small flags?

Glad to hear you are OK. I know routine crashes are going to be more costly for me in terms of long term pain and consequences as a result of having nothing left over my ankle bones from so many crashes. Every day, I get reminded when I cross my ankles sititng.

Heal up, keep riding and start chanting the mantra of our motorized buddies. "Rubber down, siny side up."

Ben
79pmooney

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04/11/2016 12:06 PM
Back to the P-R.  Really cool that places 1 and 2 went to to riders who rode probably the two hardest rides of the day.  I hadn't paid a lot of attention to Hayman.   He was not on my radar, either re: this race or the peloton as a whole so I paid no attention to him in the break.  It wasn't until after that I realized he was the lone hanger on from the break and that he did a lot of work over the day, even if he did sit in the last few kms.  (And sitting in with that crowd wasn't a free ride.  Not exactly uniform speed!)

Ben
SideBySide

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04/11/2016 12:32 PM
The result might have been different if Boonen hadn't gotten caught inside on the velodrome. It looked to me like he wanted to move out but couldn't until the very end.
Orange Crush

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04/11/2016 01:15 PM
Ben - like these except they were right on edge of bike lane. They stand about 3 feet tall. Fortunately I am like rubberman.

http://www.victoria.ca/assets/Default/BollardsWithPaintSeparation.png
79pmooney

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04/11/2016 02:18 PM
OC, I still have visions of hitting a curb from one of my early open races, a 3/4 criterium. We were winding up for the sprint. I was on the right following a guy and we were moving up. Guy on his right moved over, he did the same, hit the curb, went down hard and screamed a scream that is still etched in my memory. A fellow racer rode another lap in warm-down and told me after that the guy had a massive and deep cut to his thigh.

I used to ride a bridge sidewalk in Seattle with a high concrete curb at lest a foot high between me and traffic and a concrete and steel wall on the outside. My Lowrider panniers were always closer than comfortable to that curb. I knew for years that if my attention ever slipped, I was going to the hospital. Brushed the bag against the curb on morning, jerked the bars away (knowing full well that going over the curb into the lower roadway and in front of cars wasn't going to end well) and planted my chin on the steel pipe rail. Not serious but plenty of blood. Enough that when I walked into the local hospital blocks away, I got immediate attention, like I have never had after busted bones and the like! Just a couple of stitches, not a big deal.

Bike lanes that are crashes on both sides should be illegal. Or at least, the planners forced to ride them until they crash.)

Ben
Cosmic Kid

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04/11/2016 02:51 PM
Posted By SideBy Side on 04/11/2016 12:32 PM
The result might have been different if Boonen hadn't gotten caught inside on the velodrome. It looked to me like he wanted to move out but couldn't until the very end.


Agreed....he looked like he wanted to make his move earlier, but just couldn't get out.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Gonzo Cyclist

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04/12/2016 09:37 AM
did anybody see that video footage of Viviani getting plowed into by the Moto in the Arenberg forest?
Don't know what that guy was thinking, everyone was stopped for a while already, this guys rolls up at like 30mph, and bam, hammers Viviani, dude had his head so far up his arse, he's lucky he did not kill anybody. This guy from Trek rolls up and gives him an earful

There is this kid cheering everyone on, a huge pile up, and then he's gone, he sees the moto coming, his expression says it all

I'll see if I can find that link again
Orange Crush

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04/12/2016 11:13 AM
Also we got our first cut on a disc brake:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ventoso-injured-by-disc-brake-at-paris-roubaix/
79pmooney

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04/12/2016 12:58 PM
Quite an argument re: discs on OC's link! I started to get drawn in then realized I have a life to live!

Ben


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