LOMBARDIA!!! (Spoilers)
Last Post 08/24/2020 04:52 PM by 79 pmooney. 18 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid

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08/15/2020 09:48 AM
Big, Van dear Poel is just not the same ride this year as 2019. Riding at the back of the bunch in the climbs.

Loved being able to watch the Dauphine then swapping over to Lombardia....small (very small) benefit of the lockdown, I guess.
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Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 09:56 AM
The climbs are also too big for van der Poel. Even in top form he’d just be hanging in there. I mean even in Amstel which he won he was not best on harder climbs. And those were much easier climbs.
Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 10:03 AM
Horror crash Evenepoel
Cosmic Kid

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08/15/2020 10:05 AM
Oh Jesus…he hit a wall on a bridge during descent and flipped over it. Looked like a LONG drop.

Holy schitt…hoping he is OK.
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Cosmic Kid

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08/15/2020 10:11 AM
RAI is reporting that he is conscious and ring attended to.
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Cosmic Kid

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08/15/2020 10:23 AM
Evenepoel loaded into a ambulance on a stretcher and immobilized.

Hoping it is all precautionary.

Horrific crash. That turn is SO dangerous.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 11:11 AM
It looked like Nibalis wicked descent put him under pressure. Just before turn he was a bit distanced and probably took some risks trying to latch back on.

Trek 4, 5 and 6. Haha.

Oh and that Schachmann incident w car. Cripes.
Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 11:28 AM
First report is leg injury. Could have been much worse.
79pmooney

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08/15/2020 11:29 AM
I wonder if Evanepoel/s 20 years old was a factor here. Nibali is one of the best there is descending. Common knowledge that when he is on, you're going to lose a few seconds at your best. Good thing is that Evenepoel is 20 years old. Young enough to heal fast. I wish him well. I'd love to see him back and strong in a few weeks though might take a miracle. I didn't watched the crash and don't plan to.
Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 11:51 AM
Well they joked when he was a junior that he was going on solo rampages because he didn’t know how to ride in a group.
longslowdistance

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08/15/2020 12:22 PM
Terrifying video of the crash. I hope the injuries are not severe as is being suggested.
Dumbf@ck who drove his car across the course at the finale - what a jerk.
Cosmic Kid

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08/15/2020 12:40 PM
Seeing reports that he suffered no broken bones....damn if I know how that would’ve possible, but hopefully true.

Here is the crash....

https://twitter.com/msteeman/status/1294650771447975937?s=21
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Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 04:50 PM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 08/15/2020 12:22 PM
Dumbf@ck who drove his car across the course at the finale - what a jerk.


At this point this looks to be a race control error with driver being as much a victim as Schachman
Orange Crush

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08/15/2020 05:06 PM
Back to CKs original post, MVDP said he surprised himself with performance today but doesn’t think he’d ever be a favourite in this race. Finally starting to feel good. I am sure he will be too by time of Flanders and Roubaix.
Cosmic Kid

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08/16/2020 08:31 AM
Well, now Roglic is out of the Dauphine after his crash yesterday. What a mess this is turning out to be!

The *good* news is that it leaves today's stage wide open, I guess.....
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longslowdistance

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08/22/2020 06:51 PM
Dumpf@ck called out.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/driver-who-cut-off-schachmann-during-il-lombardia-fined/
"I didn't know there was a race."
I've seen that facial expression from many drivers who find themselves surprised that they unwittingly attempted to kill me: WTF where did you come from? if they saw me at all. More on motorcycles than on bicycles, I guess because on a moto I'm in the lane and moving faster, which competes with older or distracted (cell phones) drivers' slower reaction times.
Another vote for mountain bikes. May hit a tree or o/w crash, but won't be run over by a dangerous moron.
79pmooney

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08/22/2020 10:20 PM
lsd, do you remember Alan Kingsberry (sp) who was hit by a cement truck while defending his National TT title, 1979 or '80? That drive was just driving the main road to a job, drove though an intersection where both cross streets had stop signs. There were no signs or marshals to alert him a race was happening. He T-boned Alan who was going what? 28 mph? and had just gone through a stop sign.

The marshals were 6th grade girls and both were on the other side with traffic.

Two years before I'd watched the MA/RI district TT champs. In southern NH because our district rep didn't know of a suitable, safe road to run the TT in Massachusetts. The NH course was open highway with a big, gentle round-a-bout with excellent visibility. Plenty of marshals. When I read of Alan's accident, I was pissed. You mean our district rep (Grace Jones RIP) puts on a much safer championship than our governing body?

A little personal for me. Grace was my biggest fan after my head injury. She watched me struggle in a bunch of races then ride OK at the States and take the field by surprise. A month later, I asked her if she could upgrade me to Cat 2 so I could ride the Mt Washington road race. Without my accident I would have been close on finish points. She upgraded me and watched me really struggle in 1-2 crits. Once, she saw me get dropped, caught by clubmate and National TT champ Lynn Lemare, then towed by Lynn until the 1-2 field came around. Good training but pretty humbling!

The Mt Washington race was run that year as a long point-to-point from southern NH to Conway, 113 miles, no big hills. Big wind, very small field; 39 of us. Two were as high on a bike as me. I got dropped halfway when the winning break left. I stayed out in the road, not letting the wheel/observer van pass me because I knew when it did, my day was over. Finally caught the next droppee. Eventually five of us got back on. Grace got to watch me from the passenger seat. I finished in the field Nothing grand but a long, long ways from where I was 10 months before when she was attending my club's annual dinner and it was announced I was in a coma. Thank you Grace.

Ben
longslowdistance

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08/23/2020 03:48 PM
Hi Ben. Good stories, especially the autobus story. Yes I remember Kingsbury’s crash. Broke every bone in his body. I still feel bad or the hapless marshal. Kingsbury tried to make a comeback but not a chance. I thought of him when Froome was injured.
AndJones. Same as Jones cycle wear? Trying to remember the name of the NH-Maine and Vermont reps back then. Both women. One was gorgeous and had a thing with John Gromeck.
79pmooney

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08/24/2020 04:52 PM
lsd, yeah. Grace of Jones Cycle Wear. They provided custom jerseys for us at NEBC. Wool or last forever synthetic. Very good fit and workmanship. I had several. I was wearing one that day. It died to scissors. I still have my custom un-sponsored NEBC jersey from my strong (and accident) year, 1977, when the club was between sponsors. Except a lot of fading, practically as good as new and I still wear it occaisionally. (No it hasn't stretched. It is the very quick fitness check!).

I didn't know those other two district reps. Funny about John Gromeck. Didn't know John but raced against him in 3 of the 4 of an early season series in southern NH. I'd ridden all winter and had good form. All I had to do was ride decent the 4th race and the series 3rd was mine. Two days before was my birthday that I shared with my grandfather. Dinner with all of us, my dad pouring the (very goo, properly aged name French) wine.

That was my wake-up call. Alcohol and racing do not work for me. 40 hours later I had nothing. John got to podium, not the he cared!


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