Paris-Nice / Tirreno - Adriatico Thread (spoilers)
Last Post 03/24/2021 11:18 AM by 79 pmooney. 23 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid

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03/10/2021 04:49 PM
Damn good day for Jumbo-Visma today in both races.
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Orange Crush

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03/10/2021 08:38 PM
Roglic is in fine spring form again but it’s a long way till July.

Looking forward to the van Aert MVDP match ups over coming weeks. Will be interesting to see if van Aert goes for overall here and if this holds him back at all for the one day work.
longslowdistance

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03/10/2021 09:14 PM
Following PN with my soon to be extinct NBCSN feed.
Observations:
The feed is good. Poor solo English language guy is smart enough to shut up every once in a while (or is he just taking a whiz?) And nice to see Roglic with a TT helmet that fits his noggin. I had the pleasure of watching Brandon McNulty win a kiddie rainbow jersey in the US in Richmond a few years back, and now the follow up pleasure to see he's mixing it up with the big boys in a WT TT (again!). Will he podium in Nice? Unlikely with that alpine stage, but fun to see him in the mix.

As for TA, is there a feed for US?
Thanks
79pmooney

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03/10/2021 10:08 PM
So Rémi Cavagna simply ran out of juice! Late attack at P-N. Got to the final hill and got stuck in the small ring and smallish cog. Seems it was a battery issue. On one of the better teams, D-QS, for mechanical issues in general.
Cosmic Kid

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03/10/2021 10:27 PM
Will be interesting to see if van Aert goes for overall here and


He has indicated that with the lack of summit finishes, he wants to try for the overall.

As for TA, is there a feed for US


GCN+ has daily coverage.
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Orange Crush

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03/10/2021 10:54 PM
Stage 4. Prati di Tovi (14,7 km aan 7%). I’d call that a summit finish.
Cosmic Kid

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03/11/2021 08:57 AM
But isn't that the only one? I think he was referring to the lack of numerous summits as well as the absence of some of the traditional, harder ones...Mt. Etna, etc.

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Orange Crush

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03/11/2021 09:11 AM
I don’t think they ever have any super hard ones in Tirreno. Stage 4 seems more climbing than usual.
Cosmic Kid

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03/11/2021 09:29 AM
*shrug*

Just relaying what I heard...I haven't bothered to look into it that much, TBH.
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Orange Crush

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03/11/2021 09:40 AM
Well I had to laugh cause Etna is on Sicily. Tirreno is in central Italy. Fire your source of intel :-)
Orange Crush

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03/11/2021 09:41 AM
Posted By 79 pmooney on 03/10/2021 10:08 PM
So Rémi Cavagna simply ran out of juice! Late attack at P-N. Got to the final hill and got stuck in the small ring and smallish cog. Seems it was a battery issue. On one of the better teams, D-QS, for mechanical issues in general.


So how does crash mode get activated anyway? Apparently the juice was just fine.
Orange Crush

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03/11/2021 02:34 PM
And now someone else "Nacer Bouhanni frustrated by shifting failure in Paris-Nice sprint"

e-shift FTW?!
Cosmic Kid

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03/11/2021 03:39 PM
So how does crash mode get activated anyway?


I think crash mode can get activated if the RD gets a big knock against it. So maybe someone's front wheel hit is RD?

Damn good stage today at T-A. It is making P-N look like a total snoozefest in comparison.
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longslowdistance

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03/11/2021 07:33 PM
JA celebrating early again!
79pmooney

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03/11/2021 09:15 PM
So if a race is important enough, should these Di2 bikes have mechanical backups? A couple of cables and a pair of DT shifters left pushed forward until needed? Wouldn't weigh very much. (Of course, there probably isn't a rider in the peloton who would know how to use them. )
Cosmic Kid

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03/11/2021 09:32 PM
JA celebrating early again!


Right? You think he would have learned his lesson about posting up early by now, but.....

He had no idea MVP was coming like a bullet....

And MVP needs to start using better tactics and stop relying on brute power to bludgeon everyone. He had horrible position today, but still nearly won.

His attack in KBK from 80k out, his needless attack in Amstel in 2019 40k out which led to him missing the critical break (yeah, he won but only because he did something superhuman). He is starting to remind me a bit of Sagan....thinking he can just smash everyone instead of riding smarter.
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Dale

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03/12/2021 07:22 AM
100% true on VdP sledge hammer approach to racing but you have to admit it makes things more exciting that the pocket-protector/ green eyeshade/ accountant style of racing (I'm looking at you Froome) we suffered through for years.
Cosmic Kid

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03/12/2021 08:34 AM
Oh, no doubt.....he makes every race exciting to watch. Jeebus, his closing speed yesterday was INSANE!!

But at some point, just like with Sagan, people are gonna figure out how to turn it against him.
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Dale

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03/12/2021 09:22 AM
I think he'll figure it out quicker than Sagan. Peter the Great loves the show almost as much as he likes winning. VdP loves to crush souls more than showboating and he'll adapt to a wised-up peloton.
Orange Crush

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03/12/2021 09:29 AM
He rode smart enough during Strada. Even took time to eat in final. The ones he really wants to win he’s already using his head.

Kuurne was just boredom meets training need meets no real need to win this one anyway. It was also meant to come together but their sprinter didn’t make it. I’m expecting a measured performance at MSR and then total destruction on Poggio. And hah, he already made up for yesterday lol.
Orange Crush

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03/12/2021 09:41 AM
Sagan meanwhile has a really long way to go. Unlikely he’ll factor this spring which is too bad. Would have been legendary if he could mix it up with three amigos.
zootracer

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03/12/2021 12:09 PM
At age 31 Sagan is a little long-in-the-tooth for a sprinter.

I find Paris-Nice to be a bit boring. They ride in a giant pack till the last 3K then the lead out men make a break for it. I watch it on nbcsports with Bob Roll and Christian Vande Velde try to make it sound exciting, where most of the time it isn't.
79pmooney

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03/14/2021 02:06 PM
A lot happened today in P-N/T-A! P-N; Roglic and JV got the message that 1) just being the most powerful team there isn't always enough, that sometimes you need to be smart on how you use your resources - using your team hard yesterday for a few GC seconds, then burning the team early today when other teams were willing to work, then not having enough gas left when things got bad and 2) how other teams and riders view your actions matter. (Sky modeled all of this several years ago when Froome took that off-road excursion at the Tour and their competitors were unwilling to wait for him. I guess the JV hierarchy were in the restroom when that footage got shown.)

T-A; MvdP! No, it didn't matter in the standings, but what fun to watch! That hill- the real test of "do your gears really work?" Wish I had the tech to see that. Sound like some of my favorite pitches in my racing days. The stretch of Blue Hill beside the ski slope, just outside Boston and 2 miles from my parent's house, Summit Ave in Boston, Pack Manadnock in southern NH and the killer - the final 200 feet of Mt Washington, the final stretch of Mt Diablo. Where the high grades go to the high school seniors. Wait, wait, all confused - where the road grades go to the high teens.
79pmooney

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03/24/2021 11:18 AM
Volta a Catalunya, Stage 3. Valverde. Didn't win, but he still is impressive. Earned his paycheck today even if he had to settle for the bottom step. (Not worthy of a new thread, so I tagged this onto the early season stage race thread. Hope no one minds.)


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