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NAHBS, jump the shark much?
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Dale

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03/19/2014 03:09 PM
Hold crap, are most of these hideous.. not to mention impractical.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/03/gallery/gallery-striking-paint-jobs-at-nahbs_320647

6" fenders… yah, that'll do some good

Cut-out head tubes aka mudcollecters. Seriously?

And the paint!?! Jackson Pollack met Picasso and had a bad acid trip together or something?
ChinookPass

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03/19/2014 03:57 PM
The photo gallery at CN was mostly disc brake overload. I guess you have to show the limits of your design capabilities and include all the latest trends to impress.
huckleberry

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03/19/2014 04:37 PM
I must agree for the most part on the paint jobs - but I did like the Six Eleven - more like Mondrian ; )
79pmooney

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03/19/2014 04:50 PM
The part that got me was Velonews not making any comment about the fixie citybike dislpayed with no brakes. Come on, guys! How 'bout just o touch of civic responsibility!

Yeah, I know, most cities the fixie crowds run in have first class trauma centers and airports for the out of town relatives attending the services, but still.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/03/gallery/gallery-velos-best-of-nahbs-awards-for-2014_320358#

And the paint jobs? They'd be fun to look at on someone else's bike. Likewise the lugwork and welded on names. (But they both suggest there are some builders/paInters without enough work to keep them busy.)

Ben
79pmooney

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03/19/2014 04:54 PM
Now the bike that I think is seriously cool (and looks pretty sharp is the Calfee tandem, photos #8 & 9. (But whatever you do, don't go to #10!)

Ben
Yo Mike

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03/20/2014 10:01 AM
Lots of talent and hard work on display, to be sure, but honestly, just because one 'can' does not mean one 'should'.

My wife works in visual merchandising, and a lot of this makes me think of the fashion world



Seriously - how many of these outfits get sold?
jrt1045

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03/20/2014 10:14 AM
Dale, I agree - it's jumped the shark a bit. On one hand its great to see a vibrant handbuilt culture but on the other - where are most of these guys/gals going to be in 5 years? There is a finite group of people that will buy all that stuff and it seems to be getting to the point that they may have purchased it all at least twice. Interesting absences this year, too (Dave Kirk, I think?)

The clever, clever land social dynamic is interesting, too. It seems like a handful get way into turning the event into a sorority social. The circle jerk about going on over at Velocipede Salon is almost as glowing as the one about handmade 700x28 tires

The show would be pretty neat for a few hours but I would soon tire of hand hammered fenders and Richard Sachs
Dale

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03/20/2014 10:26 AM
YoMike … wow… Where were those photos taken, the North American Handmade Clothing Show?

Yo Mike

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03/20/2014 10:36 AM
Dale - I have no idea where this stuff came from - I just did a web search for 'outrageous fashion' - those were not the most outrageous examples, to be sure......

@jrt1045 - yes, somewhere between sorority social and 'circle jerk' LOL
THE SKINNY

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03/20/2014 10:39 AM
i'm sure there are some one percenters that buy those bikes just to say they've got one. all the builder needs is to sell a few bikes of that kind per year as advertisement and that keeps them building bread and butter frames for a year. i think it's great how creative and talented people can be even if it is on something as utilitarian as a bicycle. i'm not saying it's high art but it's along the lines of lady gaga with her pork chop dress or whatever. love me some pork chops or at least i did before going vegetarian.
How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
jrt1045

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03/20/2014 10:57 AM
I have always been a fan of Build Your Own Bikini night
thinline

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03/20/2014 11:07 AM
"Yeah, I know, most cities the fixie crowds run in have first class trauma centers and airports for the out of town relatives attending the services, but still."

Ben for the win!
Cosmic Kid

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03/20/2014 12:12 PM
Seriously - how many of these outfits get sold?
This has been my question over the last couple of years about NAHBS. Between the transportation costs, exhibit fees. travel to and from the show, hotels, etc. I can't imagine that many of these guys are getting a positive return on the show. I hope I am wrong, but I kinda doubt it.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Keith Richards

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03/20/2014 01:15 PM
I think a big problem with the show moving forward is the cost effectiveness, especially with the new found interest in urban and city biking.

How many of these guys are actually going to be profitable enough to even be around to guarantee their work? Remember what happened with Gurb and his custom bike that needed repairs...
----- It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
79pmooney

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03/20/2014 02:22 PM
Keith, that's why my next custom (if I ever do it again - I feel pretty well set for life now) will be with either of the guys who have built me bikes in the past, Dave Levy with 20+ years experience and Peter Mooney with a few more. Peter should retire in a few years, but he has made a name for himself of building reliable frames. I suspect any good framebuilder would be honored to do a repair or modification on one of his frames. And I would trust Dave to repair any of my frames.

Ben
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