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04/20/2014 09:00 PM

And regardless of your feelings towards -7, no one can deny the good that Livestrong foundation has accomplished / provided to those suffering from cancer.

Well, actually many people do exactly that - they see issues only in black and white, unwilling or unable to hold contradictory ideas at the same time - be it politics, religion, or controversial public figures.
"Either you're with us or against us" is a classic example.
"Armstrong is 100% evil and everything he created also is 100% evil" is the corollary here.


04/21/2014 10:23 PM
I get what you re saying Ben. I have no problem supporting foundations that bring research hope and health to those who need it. I supported both The Cancer Society and The MS Society by raising money for them and rode their organized rides for ten years in a row from 93 to 2003. Then I found out the CEO’s salary. Livestrong’s salary Is not far off.
Your typical Corporate American business. That’s fine but take the name charity out.


Little different in Europe.




04/22/2014 11:47 AM
Thanks, Pin0Q0. I will continue my policy of neither supporting nor badmouthing Livestrong.



04/22/2014 11:56 AM
there was a good TED talk about fundraising for charities and the COE salaries. https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pallotta_the_way_we_think_about_charity_is_dead_wrong
How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
Cosmic Kid


04/22/2014 12:22 PM
IMO, The best charities to support are the ones that are local and make immediate impacts and differences in peoples' lives. The larger a charity gets, the more bureaucracy gets developed which means less money getting down the food chain.

Wanna make an immediate and significant difference....give to a local food bank or homeless shelter. They are on the front line. A few years ago, I gave away a bunch of winter coats that we no longer used or my girls grew out of.....I made sure to find a homeless shelter to give them to. No Goodwill, no Salvation Army.....also told them to give them to people on the street and not those currently in the shelter. Those coats may have well saved someones life in a brutal Chicago winter.

I'm not too concerned anymore with huge charity organizations....they get plenty of $$ from major donors and the government.

Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!


04/22/2014 12:31 PM
Yeah, that TED talk turns the issue of pay on its head a bit. If you pay this fee or salary, charity $$ get raised and I make a living. If I don't make a living, charity $$ don't get raised cuz I gotta do something else that feeds the family. Makes sense to me though your brain says that working for a non-profit ought to come with some reasonable standard of living tradeoff by the CEO.


04/29/2014 11:31 PM
LeMond's reply...............fannntastic!



04/30/2014 08:34 AM
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