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smokey52

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11/09/2016 07:10 AM
Britain voted to leave the EU. We voted to leave our senses.
Dale

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11/09/2016 08:14 AM
Adult daughters text last night summed it up, "I'm scared right now."

I went 1-8 voting yesterday.
longslowdistance

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11/09/2016 09:25 AM
No excuses for the repubs now. Will they truly govern, or just fight culture wars?
Spud

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11/09/2016 10:36 AM
ChinookPass

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11/10/2016 12:16 PM
We've had the blackwater presidency. Now we have the breitbart presidency. Goody for us.

Has any checked to see that Hab is ok? Though he was probably a Sanders guy.
Dale

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11/10/2016 01:36 PM
Hab is a FB friend... was Sanders but firmly in Clintons camp. I think he's been talked off the ledge but it's still dicey

79pmooney

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11/10/2016 03:46 PM
Am I the only one who looks at that photo and thinks Sarah Palin? (I've never seen her on TV or heard one word she has spoken, so she may be as bright as all get out. This isn't a judgement.)

Ben
Nick A

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11/13/2016 02:23 PM
My level of disappointment and fear is beyond words. We've elected the KKK endorsed candidate for President of the United States. Not sure how you spin that.

Nick
smokey52

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02/10/2017 07:26 PM
Did anybody really think it would come to this?
longslowdistance

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02/10/2017 07:59 PM
Shows how much the Dems have lost track. To my liberal friends who decried W, I would say "look who the Dems picked to run against him. Weak candidates. And ignoring a large part of the base , the working class who aren't interested in culture wars, just want a good paying job. 2016 deja vu, sorry Hillary Lovers, but she had too much baggage and zero connection with blue collar folks. Bernie could have clobbered Trump, but the fix was in and Clinton was a lock from day one. voila another Republican in the White House, and a scary one at that.
Dale

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02/10/2017 09:12 PM
If Warren does not get picked in 2020 I will be convinced the Dems are not interested in regaining the White House and are only there to enrich their inner circle.

LSD, I concur that Bernie would have mopped the floor with Trump.
Cosmic Kid

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02/11/2017 11:57 AM
Warren would be a horrific choice in 2020....2016 showed us misogyny is still prevalent and the country in in too critical a position to risk running with Warren.

In addition, she as already been effectively knee-capped with the Native American ancestry issue and often comes across as shrill rather than defiant.

Don't get me wrong....I have nothing against Warren. I just think she would be a poor choice in 2020.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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02/11/2017 12:12 PM
And she is too far from the mainstream. Who might the Dems pick? Who has the charisma and chops. Cory Booker?

Depends on who is the Repub, too. I'll give even odds Pence will be president before 2020 and will running for re-election.
steelbikerider

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02/11/2017 04:02 PM
I'll post at the risk of getting shut down. Booker doesn't have a chance, America will not elect another black president for a long time. Obama received a lot of votes because he was black, enough to make a difference if you look at the turnout compared to Clinton. It was also cool for a young person to vote Obama instead of McCain or Romney. The only chance for a Democrat to win a national election is a young minority person from a red state(Castro brothers in TX for example). Someone new has to pick up the mantle and have a principled, consistent and calm opposition to Trump instead of relying on the same attacks and yelling as in the past. The Dems seem to be locked into the past as much as the Reps, just different issues that appeal to their core, neither side is truly addressing the future. I usually vote mostly Republican, wrote in a candidate this year as a protest and might have voted for Bernie simply because he seemed to be the one candidate who truly believed what he was saying.
longslowdistance

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02/11/2017 06:34 PM
Like.
So the Dems need a white male with balls.




PS: Clinton was IMHO an extraordinary weak Presidential candidate. She had no personal connection with most of the electorate, was saddled with her and her husband's heavy baggage, got rich cozying up to the big corporations and Wall Street firms that cause the Great Recession,  has a grating voice, did not provide a real vision for why she was running, etc. etc. Bozo the clown could have beaten Trump. But the Dems had decided before the campaign it was Hilary's turn, and that was that.
Believe me I'm not Trump fan, and did not vote for him and would not even if a gun was held to my head, but he does get credit for connecting with a good chunk of the electorate and ending two political dynasties, Bush and Clinton.
I wish Hilary had stayed in the Senate. She was a very good Senator - smart, aware, willing to work with her rivals. The senate needs more people like her.
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