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Mathieu Van der Poel's Canyon
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79pmooney

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02/03/2020 10:26 AM
The Canyon highlighted in the photo of him at the finish of yesterday's CX Worlds.  That frame!  That wonderfully clean, elegant seat tube/top tube/seat stay intersection.

The real story?  Top tube and seat tube were made in one place as a single unit.  Seat tube, chainstays and down tube were made as a unit elsewhere.  Brought the two together and "oops!".  Time for bondo and lots of it.

And seriously, how could Canyon come up with something so ugly?  Even worse, suppose this is the new trend?  I might have to boycott bike shops for a few years until order is restored.

Ben
6ix

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02/03/2020 02:56 PM
Have you seen a recent Pinarello? You want to talk about atrocious.

I completely agree with you about the 'cross Canyon. I understand the reasoning behind (throwing the frame over your shoulder while carrying) but surely they could have found a more aesthetically pleasing solution, something like what Colnago did with theirs.

Just another example of how engineers and designers will never really get along.
Cosmic Kid

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02/03/2020 03:16 PM
Pinarello's look like someone left them in the oven for too long.....they are ugly, heavy and aerodynamic as bricks. I laugh everytime Ineos / Sky talks about "marginal gains" but they continue to ride those monstrosities.

I kinda dig the Canyon CX bike......don't have an issue with the seat tube / top tube intersection.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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02/03/2020 05:02 PM
Yuck on both the Canyon and the Pinarello. The former looks like they cobbled up the tt/dt/st intersection and had to use a bucket of body filler, the latter looks like a Salvador Dalí painting.

*Disclaimer. I like Dalí's art but a melted bike is not my things.
eurochien

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02/03/2020 05:59 PM
Canyons are the ugliest bikes out there imo, no contest, but they win races.
Dale

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02/04/2020 09:10 AM
I'm certainly no pro but carrying the bike on that oddball TT/ST/SS intersection would throw the weight balance too far forward. If I were 6' 4" it might make sense... the bike could just hang down but for 95% of the cycling population it just seems gimmicky.

Looking at race photos I hardly ever see Alvarado or MVdP with the bike on their shoulder like that. For that matter it's tough to find Nys with his Colnago Cross Prestige carrying a bike with his shoulder in that odd little 1/4 circle.

Marketing > Practicality or Engineering

...and for the record I am a Colnago fan but used a Cross Cup rather than the Cross Prestige over the looks. How's that for petty?
79pmooney

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02/04/2020 11:15 AM
Posted By Cosmic Kid on 02/03/2020 03:16 PM
Pinarello's look like someone left them in the oven for too long...

CK, post cure heat treat.  Those forks are guaranteed not to crack.  (They might wilt however.) 
79pmooney

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02/04/2020 11:50 AM
Edit to post above - Pinarello's forks remind me of the early CF wheels I saw at the Marymore Velodrome. On a road bike hung from a trunk rack. Sporty little car. Rear wheel was in line with the exhaust. And that rim exhibited the famous Pinarello wave. (Way, way ahead of its time. A forerunner to both those famous forks and disc brake wheels. With that side-to-side wavy profile, probably a breakthrough in the rain also. I don't think that lucky owner had any idea of what he had.)

Ben
Cosmic Kid

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02/04/2020 03:22 PM
Canyons are the ugliest bikes out there imo, no contest, but they win races.


Hey now...my Aeroad is a damn good looking bike!!!

And the new, unreleased version seen under MVP is even better with the new hidden cable layout.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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02/05/2020 09:17 AM
FIFY
Posted By Cosmic Kid on 02/04/2020 03:22 PM

And the new, unreleased version seen under MVP is less ugly with the new hidden cable layout.


eurochien

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02/06/2020 06:04 PM
Sorry bro, what I dislike the most is that logo on the down tube and the lack of eye-pleasing graphics (if I had the $$$ I'd get myself a Colnago). I have no doubt they ride well, better than my noodly Masi anyway.
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