longslowdistance
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| 02/10/2022 06:15 AM |
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Russian figure skater positive A sample. Figure skater!
Color commentator gushes about a Russian xc skier who performs well only on Olympic years, without a sense of irony. Uh huh.
As for Gu, as smart as she is, she seems to have underestimated the powerful symbolism of her choice. |
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6ix
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| 02/10/2022 07:16 AM |
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| After watching Icarus and seeing the fallout from the Sochi olympics, it comes as no surprise that the Russians are still cheating. Not like other countries are innocent in that respect, but it's state-sponsored and goes all the way back to Putin. None of them should even be in the Olympics at all. I don't care that they technically aren't representing Russia. What penalty have they truly been given? And doping a 15-year old? I love the comments made by their team doctors. "Stop bothering her, it's nothing that could have helped her in competition." Sure buddy, sure. We're cycling fans here. We know quite a bit about how those seemingly benign drugs just randomly find their way into the athletes and absolutely don't offer any performance benefits whatsoever. Uh huh, sure. When you're competing at that level, representing countries that are still stuck in Cold War / playground / dick-measuring contests, they will stop at nothing to have even the slightest of edges over the other. |
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longslowdistance
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| 02/10/2022 08:11 AM |
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| Agree that this is in large part on the IOC. Gutless wonders.
Now Putin can invade Ukraine, it’s the IOC’s fault. |
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Orange Crush
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| 02/10/2022 08:41 AM |
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On the doping note are the Norwegians still all asthmatic? I recall at last Olympics they had a stash that would make Froome jealous. The Swedes were quite upset.
As to figure skating the biggest cheating happens on the jury bench. I don’t know why they’d bother with doping as bribery is the proven way to go to influence outcomes. This story is taking a definite backseat in NL to the row between Dutch and Swedes about lobbying by the orange for changes to ice quality at the speed skating ring. We like it hard and fast. Once again the Swedes are quite upset. |
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Orange Crush
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| 02/10/2022 09:18 AM |
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Posted By Evan Solida on 02/10/2022 07:16 AM
When you're competing at that level, representing countries that are still stuck in Cold War / playground / dick-measuring contests, they will stop at nothing to have even the slightest of edges over the other.
Wait, did you just describe Russia or the USA, or both? I’d have to go for both LOL. |
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79pmooney
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| 02/10/2022 09:40 AM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 02/10/2022 09:18 AM
Posted By Evan Solida on 02/10/2022 07:16 AM
When you're competing at that level, representing countries that are still stuck in Cold War / playground / dick-measuring contests, they will stop at nothing to have even the slightest of edges over the other.
Wait, did you just describe Russia or the USA, or both? I’d have to go for both LOL.
I recently saw a world map of US bases with nuclear missiles. We have Russia completely surrounded. It is as if we had Russian missiles all along the Canadian border, Nova Scotia, Bermuda, the Bahamas, throughout the Caribbean, Mexico, Hawaii ... . And we had issues when Russia wanted just one base on Cuba.
Performance drugs for 15 yo girls? We all know they had no effect on either performance or lifestyle of Genevieve Jeanson. She went on to become ordinary pack fodder.  56 minutes up Mt Washington? Isn't that the year the mountain sank 500'? |
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79pmooney
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| 02/10/2022 10:27 PM |
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| Just saw in the NY Times that the 15 yo girl had trimetazidine in her system. Heart medicine. Anyone know what it's for and what performance advantage to be had? |
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Orange Crush
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| 02/10/2022 11:46 PM |
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Improves blood flow supposedly I think. Not sure how that affects figure skating. Sounds like she tested positive at Russian nationals. So if this is all a Russian conspiracy why would they even be testing there haha. Although it was supposedly a Swedish lab that flagged it this week.
Finally saw snowboard cross. Awesome races on mens side. Bunch of photo finishes. Some crashes. It’s not a contact sport but it can be. Nice USA story on women side. Zero commercials in recast. Ski cross should be even better next week. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 02/11/2022 09:24 AM |
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| Yeah, just watched the Mens snowboard Cross last night....great racing. |
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| Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
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Dale
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| 02/11/2022 10:15 AM |
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Snowboard. Reminds me of an episode 9 or 10 years ago.
One of the companies I worked with flew us out to the Gore-Tex facility in Delaware to get educated and tour a couple of their plants. Really interesting and I see the value in Gore-Tex.
Anyway, in one of the rooms the tour guide showed us the suits for the US Olympic Snowboard Team for the upcoming winter games. Before my brain realized what my mouth was saying, out came, "Where's the dope stash?"
The guide was NOT amused though my fellow reps were all busting a gut.
I told one of them it was his responsibility to baby-sit me the rest of the trip and stop me from talking. |
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Orange Crush
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| 02/18/2022 11:07 PM |
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| Ski cross did not disappoint. Good racing. |
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Orange Crush
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| 02/19/2022 12:02 PM |
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| Belgium gets a gold in Winter Olympics for first time since 1948. Perhaps the best speed skating event, mass start. |
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Dale
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| 02/19/2022 05:35 PM |
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1948? That surprises me, I figured there would have been a respectable amount of skating gold for your side, you know, Hans Brinker and all that  |
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Orange Crush
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| 02/19/2022 06:16 PM |
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Perhaps you’re confusing the Belgians with the Orange Dale?
The Orange are a powerhouse in Winter Olympics medal haul. Belgium not al all.
Of course Swings the guy who won is treated as one of our own in Nl cause that’s where he lives trains and races. Much like MVDP and Max Verstappen are as much considered Belgian as Dutch. Both live in Belgium although the race under the Orange flag. BTW, Schouten, subject of CKs first post in this thread is now off with three gold medals and a bronze. Just another Dutch skater who grew up on a farm. |
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Dale
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| 02/19/2022 06:41 PM |
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| Nah, I figured the Belgians would have won several metals. Guess not. |
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