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Orange Crush

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11/23/2022 12:01 PM
For 2026 I am hoping the human rights spotlight will be solidly on aboriginal rights. I mean, Canada still has the racist Indian Act enshrined in its constitution. Repressive laws and practices are the rule of the land. I am sure things are equally dismal in the other two host countries. Inviting the world should be a good moment to amplify the call for change (good luck).

Now if everyone in 2026 wants to wear orange (the color indicating we stand with First Nations), I'd be 100% OK with that. If as I think we will per usual stop short and just have the token drum beats, circle dances and land acknowledgements, that will be a major opportunity lost once again.
longslowdistance

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11/23/2022 02:19 PM
Back to soccer. Canada are entering the Belgian box frequently and could be up 5-1 if they could finish. But
Orange Crush

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11/23/2022 02:27 PM
Yes, its a lesson in efficiency so far much like NL versus Senegal.

As much as Davies is fundamental to Bayern's attacking line, he's not the kind of guy who is a killer finisher.

But back to what the end goal for hosting 2026 should be, its fairly clearly defined as Call to Action 91: "We call upon the officials and host countries of international sporting events such as the Olympics, Pan Am, and Commonwealth games to ensure that Indigenous peoples' territorial protocols are respected, and local Indigenous communities are engaged in all aspects of planning and participating in such events". In other words, meaningful participation. It was partially achieved with the 2010 winter games.

Instead, based on what's currently online as to 2026 objectives it seems to be doing better than Russia and Qatar on LBGTQ issues, setting a low bar that we know can be met. Aboriginal rights get a passing mention. Low bars are not progress. /end rant
longslowdistance

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11/23/2022 03:33 PM
BTW the Canada Belgium ref was another fail on soccer’s biggest stage.
smokey52

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11/23/2022 05:17 PM
Qatar and human rights wrt to futbal/soccer: "Besides that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Dale

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11/23/2022 06:05 PM
You go Denmark!




https://www.football365.com/news/denmark-leave-fifa-snub-infantino-call-to-arms-onelove-armband-ban
Orange Crush

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11/23/2022 08:05 PM
Unfortunately for Denmark is that FIFA has 211 member countries and a significant portion of these voting members play pretty loose with human rights. So these Euro protests will find limited traction. That’s how Qatar happened to begin with, votes from poorer member countries being bought. Maybe if UEFA as a whole were to draw a line in the sand. Maybe.

Best way to effectuate Qatar is not via soccer but to stop giving them the insane amounts of money that we do via energy purchases (which allowed them to buy the WC). They’re one of the main benefactors of our boycott of Russian gas. But changing our energy habits might be too much to ask.

Bread and games is a sureproof remedy for that amount of irony. The Romans knew this.
Orange Crush

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11/23/2022 08:17 PM
Best protest that happened in Qatar so far was from Qatari “those empty seats will feel like a kick in the (crown) family jewels”

https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup/story/4807634/qatar-money-bought-a-world-cupbut-not-loyalty-vs-ecuador
Orange Crush

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11/24/2022 12:33 PM
whatever else we think of Ronaldo (getting booted from Man U, haha) he knows how to take a penalty kick. Even though the penalty was undeserving. Probably the first poor refereeing decision that may actually have influenced a game outcome.

Speaking of Man U, the Glover brothers getting the boot as owners is also good news.
longslowdistance

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11/24/2022 02:32 PM
Torches and pitchforks averted in Manchester
Orange Crush

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11/25/2022 12:13 PM
Ouch, that was rough, the orange are pretty far away from a well oil machine. Someone apply some chain lube.

Iran earlier today against Wales was brilliant. With their protest against regime, these guys deserves some continued spotlight. USA up next, good luck.
Orange Crush

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11/26/2022 01:54 PM
Finally watching a game live, Arg - Mex, good one.

Rewatching Den - Fra tonight with friends. Carlsberg and French cheese on menu. Let’s get this WC started.

And since soccer is politics. Time to recalibrate support for Brasil. Couple of articles this week how the game has become a vehicle of support for Bolsorano. The yellow green is tainted.
longslowdistance

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11/26/2022 07:15 PM
Kudos to Lionel Messi for sneeking in the winner. Justice.
Sad for Mexico, a good side who were unlucky in the draw. Good on them if the prove me wrong in a few days, but they are underdogs at this moment.
Euros may understand the pressure on the Mexican team to make the round of 8. Tough crowd there. As for FIFA, f ck them for ever placing the US against oppose regimes. Or just cut the crap and put the US with China in a neutral venue, with agents expelled.
Good luck with that.
Orange Crush

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11/26/2022 07:48 PM
Are you talking about the upcoming US game against Iran? That’s the result of a random draw, one of the few non political things w FIFA. And those Iranian boys firmly oppose their regime and stand w protests. I’ll be cheering for them.

Mexico will have a tough nut to crack with Saudi side who were unlucky against Poland. They play well and passionate. Who knew. Lots of good non Euro teams and few Euro teams worth cheering. France and Spain are the exception.
79pmooney

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11/26/2022 08:05 PM
I am re-reading Fate is the Hunter. (Fascinating book on life as an early commercial pilot with insight re: world events and how the US was seen by others.)

I'm at the author's second venture into South America; the State Department's attempts at matching Germany's venture into the South American airlines pre-WW2. Pilot gets to see first hand that the US ventures were not welcome, even though we were flying in brand new planes to give to them. Got to be the victim of sabotage, a cup of water in the engine oil. Incredibly lucky they didn't have to crash land in the jungle. (This had the the crew completely baffled; a weird mechanical in a brand new and excellent engine. Until the pilot mentioned this to a US flight support type with engine oil under his fingernails. "What? You didn't guard the on the plane while you slept? What did you expect?")

The Germans - welcomed because they were excellent pilots, brought good planes, hired and trained the locals. Then their relatives. Were welcome everywhere. And if we lost to Germany? Wouldn't be a tear shed between Mexico and Tierra del Fuego.

Sobering read. And humbling. I'm thinking about this now with those countries to compete against us in a venue where we are not dominant (if we get that far).
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