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Loose helmet straps. Bad?
Last Post 08/30/2013 04:16 PM by Joe Rockbottom. 24 Replies.
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Orange Crush

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08/24/2013 07:57 PM
Ben, you list two types of situations:

One you can't control (cars, weather), a helmet is a good way of mitigating risks albeit not a fool-proof one (unlike seat belts which work briliantly). I bet if we did a quick survey amongst forumites we'd find maybe 50% wearing their helmets as designed (you, like I would not pass it sounds like). Half of this has to do with user error, the other half reflects the inherent design challenges of bike helmets, it is pretty easy to put these things on wrong (unlike a seat belt). This especially goes for kids etc., how often as parents do we check those helmets go on correctly?

The other aspect (being tired, distracted), a helmet is a sorry excuse for bad behaviour. instead consider whether you should ride that day, far more effective for your long-term well being. With field work related travel, there's a clear rule for us, if you're tired, pull off, take a nap or if need be check in a hotel, no exceptions. It keeps our people safe.
Orange Crush

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08/24/2013 08:00 PM
Posted By entheo genic on 08/24/2013 02:37 PM
not sure many crashes can be attributed to SRMs or GPSs. always have been a lot of crashes - some very bad - in feed zones and riding piano. wouters turned his head to see who was behind him, and then there was a rock cliff. kivilev should have gotten back on his bike after a relatively minor accident... but he never got on a bike again. helmets were made mandatory after the latter.


Entheo, remember the Tour, what 2-3 yrs ago? A bunch of mass crashes on straight roads took out a good chunk of contenders before race even started proper. I remember folks on forum going like WTF?
79pmooney

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08/24/2013 09:18 PM
O.C.,
a helmet is a sorry excuse for bad behavior


I do not ride tired, etc, because I am wearing a helmet. I ride tired etc. because I ride. I wear a good helmet because crashed happen, not vice versa. That my riding may well cost me my life (by my own actions or the actions of others) is something I came to accept years ago.

Ben
Entheo

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08/25/2013 12:10 PM
Posted By Orange Crush on 08/24/2013 08:00 PM
Posted By entheo genic on 08/24/2013 02:37 PM
not sure many crashes can be attributed to SRMs or GPSs. always have been a lot of crashes - some very bad - in feed zones and riding piano. wouters turned his head to see who was behind him, and then there was a rock cliff. kivilev should have gotten back on his bike after a relatively minor accident... but he never got on a bike again. helmets were made mandatory after the latter.


Entheo, remember the Tour, what 2-3 yrs ago? A bunch of mass crashes on straight roads took out a good chunk of contenders before race even started proper. I remember folks on forum going like WTF?


again, first week of the tour there's always lots of nerves, everyone crowding narrow french roads to be near the front. i think riders let their staff crunch their numbers; they're trying to keep their jobs by getting results.
Gonzo Cyclist

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08/25/2013 04:38 PM
with my Uvex FP-3, it's more about the head adjustment (wheel on the back) to secure it, and the strap can be a bit loose
pabiker

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08/25/2013 10:08 PM
Gonzo, no way that is true. Post me some user instructions that say that.

OC - I was just pointing out that your helmet appears to not be adjusted properly, and since we like having you around here, suggested that you think about adjusting it properly.

Obviously, it's your call; but it wasn't meant to be an argument about how one can get killed on a bicycle.
Orange Crush

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08/30/2013 11:44 AM
Meanwhile for a bit of context, back in my old hometown... this used to be me

Oldfart

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08/30/2013 12:59 PM
Sweet bike OC. Reflectors, kickstand. Lucky. Taking off on sweet jumps
Keith Richards

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08/30/2013 02:25 PM
Emerson Fittipaldi said of his car racing, "I like doing dangerous things as safely as possible."

I always remember that regarding the sport of cycling.

----- It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
C2K_Rider

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08/30/2013 04:16 PM
Helmets are most useful in those cases in which you have no control at all...like the dog crash I had a few months ago. Low speed but the running dog shot out from behind some bushes and took out my front wheel. My hands never came off the bars before I hit the ground on my left shoulder.. My head smacked the ground pretty well. Not enough to crack the helmet but enough to ring my bell a bit..luckily no concussion. A sliding crashwould not be near as bad. A high speed crash right over the bars would be a lot worse. I find it nearly impossible to adjust the helmet as they describe in the instructions...not supposed to be able to push it back on e head, so get as close as I can.
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