tired of the trainer
Last Post 03/15/2019 08:53 AM by Cosmic Kid. 29 Replies.
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smokey52

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03/09/2019 06:21 PM
I am so tired of the trainer. I am so looking forward to the spring thaw and a few rains to rinse the streets of all the salt.
Cosmic Kid

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03/09/2019 07:09 PM
Have you tried Zwift? Can make the trainer MUCH more tolerable.

But yeah, i’m Ready for some warmer weather too....was marginal this AM and some guys ent out, but I was worried about black ice (and was watching my dog who had surgery yesterday).
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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03/10/2019 06:51 PM
One of my buddies messaged about a 45 mile mostly gravel ride... sure I'm in.
We got to mile 25 and he said we're at the bail out point*. Nah, I'm in for the full meal deal.
20 miles later I'm knackered; legs are trashed, arms are sore, mouth is gritty from the spray, clothes are a royal mess, and the bike is filthy... so glad to have been outdoors and off the trainer!

*He later said almost everyone cuts the ride short and heads home at that point. Glad I did the whole ride 3:30 with about 3500' of climbing
longslowdistance

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03/10/2019 08:15 PM
Strong, very strong!
Orange Crush

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03/10/2019 08:24 PM
Some warmer weather would be nice so my neck and shoulders don't feel like a gargantuan monkey trap after every ride.

Did a snow grind run (with crampons for traction) on Saturday 2 miles with 2500 feet up in 52.5 mins huffing and puffing all the way and wasn't feeling it for today's ride so cut it short at 95kms.
Dale

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03/11/2019 08:13 AM
...cut it short at 95kms...

Did I read that right? good grief, I'm such a weakling

Cosmic Kid

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03/11/2019 08:29 AM
2:45 on the trainer yesterday....last 30-45 min was tough. Had to turn the Zwift screen around so I couldn’t see it, otherwise I was just locked in on it and my mileage / time...even with a movie running on my other screen.

Yeah...ready for spring.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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03/11/2019 09:01 AM
Posted By Dale Dale on 03/11/2019 08:13 AM
...cut it short at 95kms...

Did I read that right? good grief, I'm such a weakling



You are focusing on wrong part. The 50odd minutes going uphill on Saturday was the killer. I'm sure my 95k on most road wasn't as hard ad your 45 mile gravel.
6ix

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03/11/2019 01:20 PM
I hear ya. Although the advent of smart trainers in combination with apps like Zwift have completely revolutionized indoor workouts and has helped me personally stay in better condition throughout the winter, I'm mentally cooked at this point. I'm really close to throwing the bike in the car, filling up the tank and driving directly South until I get into some warm weather, Blues Brothers style.

But I won't. Nope, I'll continue to slug away down in the basement like a zombie.

2:45 on the trainer deserves a freakin' award.
Cosmic Kid

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03/11/2019 01:29 PM
6ix, I always found this time of the year the most frustrating in Denver / Boulder. You can get some really nice days, but a whole lot of crap days will surround them. Spring never really seemed to arrive and suddenly it was June. But then I moved to Chicago and found out what crap weather really was...

The tough thing for us right now is that there is still a fair amount of snow on the ground....especially around intersections, driveways and tree lawns where everything gets dumped. Black ice can be prevalent, so even if you get a warm-ish day, it can be really dangerous to ride.

But 50's are headed are way on Weds / Thursday....hoping to sneak a lunch ride in both days.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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03/11/2019 02:23 PM
Your tales remind me of the 6 years I lived in Onterrible, which was 6 years too many. The too cold/too hot binary thing was strong there too. The only good time of year always was early fall (Indian Summer). I told my wife back then that if she wanted to stay in Canada, the only place we could possibly live was west coast. There's a reason why this is one of the most unaffordable places to live on the planet.

Believe it or not, I live on a hill here ( a whoopin 80 m high) and all the downhills going north still have a lot of snow on them because they are perpetually shaded in winter. The Black Ice is strong there too. But headed south out of town and down the 80 m to sea level, the riding conditions change to perfect. Just have to put up with flat riding.
6ix

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03/11/2019 02:36 PM
It's 50's and sunny today and tomorrow so will just take the mountain-bike out on the trails (Coal Creek, Rock Creek, etc.) Good way to rack up some easy miles without having to deal with any traffic and not worrying about getting the road bike dirty. You end up spending more time cleaning the bike afterwards than actually riding it!

Weather channel calls for blizzard conditions on Wednesday. FML. Back to the trainer.
Orange Crush

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03/11/2019 02:56 PM
We have a snowfall warning out as we speak. Another 10-15 cm possible. Ah well, the legs are tired for a few days anyway. As long as next weekend is clear again.

I cleaned my road/gravel bike once this winter (the chain more often); I am sure about 5lbs of dirt came off. Major servicing will have to wait till May so it is ready for OTGG.
longslowdistance

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03/11/2019 07:52 PM
Sorry if this makes me a d*ck, but I just enjoyed a spin around the neighborhood after work in 60 degrees, thank you daylight savings time and a short warm spell. First ride outdoors in months. Less than 15 miles of softpedalling, sure it hardly counts, but I had to leave time to grill some salmon and steak on the grill. Some days, life is not hard!
Cosmic Kid

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03/12/2019 01:48 PM
So desperate to get outside for exercise, I actually ran today at lunch.....first time since last year when that doggo nipped me.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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03/12/2019 05:28 PM
Like a dang fool I ran with my wife yesterday and had leg cramps all night long... felt like I was getting shanked with a prison sharpened spoon handle.
Cosmic Kid

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03/12/2019 06:03 PM
That’ll teach you to get married....
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
smokey52

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03/12/2019 08:37 PM
I don't run a lot. Actually, I don't run any more -- jogging is a euphemism. However, I find that after a run (jog) that if I ride the hated trainer for 10 minutes with low resistance, it helps to avoid cramps and muscle soreness. Also, keeping a good electrolyte balance helps with cramps. Na/K ratio is important, plus Mg levels.
zootracer

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03/13/2019 10:12 AM
I rode a handful of times in February. Monday it did not rain. For the first time this year, sweat dripped onto my sunglasses. Around the two hour mark I started to bonk, slightly. Yesterday it hit 57o and I did not need a jacket. The sun popped out a couple of times. Spring is around the corner, but I don't think we are finished with the rain yet......Lord I hate winters....
Orange Crush

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03/13/2019 10:26 AM
Today I ran out of excuses. It was quasi light. It was dry. It was slightly above freezing. First bike commute of 2019.

Form will start taking shape quickly from here.
Dale

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03/13/2019 10:49 AM
I learned a lesson about Zwift, and likely IRL riding... watts per kg is not very revenant on a flat course.

Did a Zwift ride last night that was advertised as 2.5 - 3.1 w/Kg

Watching the w/Kg of other riders I was almost always higher and dying to stay in the main field... but DID finish there, so there's that.

Of the 16 that finished at the front I had the 2nd highest w/kg (3.1), 3rd lowest average watts, 4th lowest 15 second power, and was 3rd lightest rider.
There were a couple of guys with 30% higher nominal power!

Interestingly that when I did Alpe du Zwift my average power was 17 watts higher.

I need to find rides with more elevation
Cosmic Kid

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03/13/2019 12:12 PM
On the flats it is all about pure watts....or if you want to get really technical, watts / CdA. W/KG is almost inconsequential.

Also a friendly reminder that many people are weight / trainer / size cheating on Zwift...

And a trainer simulation ain't real life...although Zwift is probably the best representation out there. When I ride at our training center, I get my ass handed to me by the watt monsters. I simply can't keep up (especially on the "downhills")....but I always put the screws to those guys IRL when it warms up and we get outside.

Over the years, one of those watt monsters I only "rode" with on the trainers...had never done an outdoor ride with him. Did more than a few with him last summer and he came up to me at one point and said "I had no idea you were this strong...". I took great satisfaction from that comment!!


Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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03/13/2019 12:47 PM
Oh, I know cheating at Zwift is as common as it is in pro cycling or college entrance

I crack up at the guys who go out and ride at a steady pace for hours at a time, they get popped as soon as the surges begin and wonder why the scrawny old guys don't get blown out the back with them.

umm... cuz we do intervals til we puke and know how to ride tactically; which technically speaking means wheel sucking.
Orange Crush

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03/13/2019 01:02 PM
I'm the steady pace guy. Easy to drop but hard to completely get rid of. And after a sufficient number of hours in the saddle I may start putting in some digs myself.

Some of my club mates are still grumbling about the sneak attack I put in during Hellracer250 in 2016 just as they were filling up their water bottles; went away at km 150 and by km 210 I had 15 minutes on them over the 60 kms of climbing and undulating course. This was after I was solidly back of pack for first 150k struggling in the heat and forest fire smoke. Once I hit the fresh climate in alpine, there was no looking back. That was a 15hr ride day; those are the best.
Cosmic Kid

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03/13/2019 08:20 PM
Supposed to be 55* tomorrow AM....and Thursday is our usual fat group ride during the season. But also good chance of rain....bunch of us are probably gonna gut it our regardless.

55 and rain ain’t too bad.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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03/13/2019 09:03 PM
I just came across Zwift for horse riding. Hilarious.
Cosmic Kid

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03/14/2019 08:59 AM
So the rain passed and we just had wet roads this AM....about 8 of us got out. Strong wind out of the south. Me and a few others always head south to meet everyone else, then flip around and do the route with everyone (recatangle route...North, East, South, West. Mostly just North & South though).

A fine gentlemen's pace head north with the tailwind...bit of a slog heading back south into the headwind and not everyone was ready for that much work. Did more than my fair share, just glad to be outside.

Easy spin back north with the wind.....

SO nice to get back out on the roads and ride with the crew again!!!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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03/14/2019 10:58 AM
Second commuting day in a row. Tired from yesterday's. One more tomorrow and we'll have a free 150k for week in bag. Add to that a Sunday training ride and finally looking at some descent weekly kms.

Ran out of excuses not to commute. It was light, it was dry, it was above freezing. Dang.
longslowdistance

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03/14/2019 07:06 PM
Back to watts/kg: Fat guys can TT.
Cosmic Kid

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03/15/2019 08:53 AM
37* and raining today....and back to Zwift, I go.

*sigh*
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!


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