Cosmic Kid
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| 09/16/2013 04:57 PM |
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I hope so, 'cuz holy schitt have the last 2 weeks been outstanding!! |
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zootracer
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| 09/16/2013 05:51 PM |
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| Yeah, my wife and I are hooked on it..can't wait to see how it ends..... |
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jacques_anquetil
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| 09/16/2013 06:15 PM |
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| Oh. My. God. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/16/2013 06:28 PM |
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| Jacques nailed it. Shakespearian.. No, Greek.
PS, don't hang out with your old HS teachers. Just sayin'. |
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Entheo
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| 09/16/2013 09:54 PM |
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| we just started watching it from the very beginning, but in all honesty it "goes downhill like concrete", as simoni once said of basso's descending skills. not sure we can hang with it if they keep milking a hamster every episode. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/16/2013 10:17 PM |
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Really, Entheo? God i was hooked from the first episode. Got to watch seasons 1-4 uninterrupted.....I was like a junkie looking for a score.
I really wished they had ended the show after Season 4....it was THAT good. The first half of Season 5 was good, but a bit of a let down from 4.
But oh-sweet-mother-of-all-that-is-holy......the second half is SO FOOKIN' GOOD. Vince agilligan and crew have done a masterful job, especially the last 2 weeks. Last night? Oh man.....so hard to watch but so compelling.
BB may have officially taken the spot as my best TV show ever. |
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Entheo
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| 09/17/2013 07:10 AM |
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| we also just started watching The Newsroom (from the beginning), which i must say the pace of which is much more my cup of tea. |
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thinline
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| 09/17/2013 09:10 AM |
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| Oh yeah. I DVR'd Sunday night's episode but had band practice last night so tonight I will watch it. Holy moly it's an entertaining show. I'll admit, it had some lag spots, but overall really well done. Agree about end of season 4, it really could have ended there. But, the second half of season 5 has taken it to a new level of crazed.
Anyone see the Jimmy Fallon spoof "Joking Bad"? If not, Google it. 13 minutes of funny. There was also a great spoof back around X-mas called Baking Bad where the Walt and Jessie characters were baking fruit cakes to sell for X-mas. Really, really funny. |
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jrt1045
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| 09/17/2013 01:45 PM |
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The long suffering Mrs and I did a Netflix binge watch a few winters ago and have been hooked ever since. If you like a show where the entire arc takes place in 45 minutes, this isn't your show. There have been some epic characters and some great writing during its time. I kinda like how some of the characters have descended into something they were not at the beginning of the show
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jrt1045
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| 09/17/2013 01:51 PM |
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Could not resist another, Saul steals so many scenes
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/17/2013 03:07 PM |
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jrt....word is that there will be a "Better Call Saul" spin-off. VG & Sony have approved moving ahead with it....no official word from AMC on picking it up, but it looks very positive form what I have read.
Would be more of a prequel than an extension of BB. |
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jmdirt
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| 09/17/2013 03:39 PM |
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| We had some friends who sold it to us just like Cosmic so we got the first few eps on NF. I felt it was so-so and my wife hated it. We are trying "Game of Thrones" now. Not bad so far. |
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jrt1045
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| 09/17/2013 04:18 PM |
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Game of Thrones ....starring Patton Oswalt. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gs2VYL-3RI
read the books so I haven't really watched it |
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RNDDUDE
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| 09/20/2013 10:05 AM |
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| Show is like Meth, once you start, it's hard not to come back again and again..... |
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| Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistant one. -Albert Einstein |
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C2K_Rider
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| 09/20/2013 03:14 PM |
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What makes the show is the confused goals of Walter White. He starts out just wanting to make money to tide his family over if he dies of cancer, but when that proves easy enough he moves up the food chain. But he is a fish out of water and freaks out every time someone physically threatens him or to expose him, but has to keep going because there is no going back. Finally, after finding he can get away with murder, indeed multiple murders, he develops full fledged megalomania and wants it all. But again, everything spooks him and he constantly freaks out, then figures he has to take it up a notch to eliminate the threat. A never-ending spiral.
You figure he has to meet his end in this thing, but the opening scene of the current run was telling - an M60 machine gun in the car trunk. As one blogger put it, "Mr Chekhov demands that gun be used." |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/20/2013 04:21 PM |
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***Warning - Spoilers and potential spoilers below!!!****
I postulated a few weeks ago that the M60 was for Uncle jack and his Merry Band of Nazis....nobody else would warrant that kind of firepower. Based on last week, I would wager that is holding true. Even if Hank was still around, there is no way he would resort to that kind of brute force to deal with him. I also predicted that the final episode would pick up with the two foreshadowing segments form the two halves of Season 5. Again, this seem to be the case.
Using those segments as a guide, and reflecting on what happened last week.....this weeks episode would seem to have to focus on the aftermath of Hank & Gomie's deaths. Walt will undoubtedly be the guy who this gets pinned on, mostly because no one elase knows about Uncle Jack, Pyschopath Todd or the Merry Band of Nazis. This assumption ties in well to the foreshadowing of the empty / vandalized White house, neighbor Carol's horrified reaction to his return, etc.
This week's episode is entitled "The Granite State", whcih again ties in perfectly with the foreshadowing and what happened last week. The "disappearerer" toook Walt away and we know that when he returns, the has a NH driver's license. But I don't think we will see much of Walt in this episode because whatever happens in NH is not necessarily germane to the story arc. We already know he gets a new identity.
There are three major questions as I see it now:
* How does Lydia tie into all of this? (Way too loose of thread to leave flapping in the breeze)
* Does Jesse survive? (I am hoping he does, and starting to think he may.....pure speculation, though)
* WHO THE FOOOK IS THE RICIN FOR?!?!!?!?
That last one is nagging at me....Uncle Jack's crew will be dealt with by brute force (obviously). The Riciin is clearly meant for someone specific....and someone he wants to suffer. Perhaps that is Lydia.....they have made a big deal about her and her tea for some time. A dash of Ricin in her tea, perhaps? He was certainly willing to kill her before.....As C2K noted, you gotta use the gun....and Vince Gilligan and crew have proved to be adept at making sure all guns are fired at some point.
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longslowdistance
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| 09/20/2013 05:02 PM |
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CK2, agree with your psychoanalysis of Walter White and I think there is more. From his R and D days the woman he fancied (and seemed to be attracted to him) who went with the other guy, selling out his share of Gray matters (they never made that clear - maybe losing that woman?), and a bunch of inner demons that were suppressed in his easy going midwesterner facade. Once he unscrewed the lid they started coming out and weren't going back in.
So many great bad guys besides WW in this series. Gus Fring may be the best, but Lydia with her high heels is a good rival.
I miss Mike.
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longslowdistance
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| 09/20/2013 05:08 PM |
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PS for your Walter White fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTix7FDHZcA
Cranston comes in at 2:20. Needs a good quality and reasonably large monitor to appreciate the instantaneous milquetoast to monster conversion. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/20/2013 05:27 PM |
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Gus was the bestest bad guy EVER. Giancarlo Esposito played that character perfectly. I bought one of the seasons on iTunes and each episode had a little "behind the scenes" video that came with it. Giancarlo was so completely different in his mannerisms and speaking patterns than Gus......just brilliant.
Did anyone catch the similarities to Gus when Lydia appeared at the car wash to talk to Walt? Walt was trying to act all non-chalant ("Do you have your ticket? Have an A-1 Day", etc) just like Gus used to do to Walt at Los Pollos Hermanos.
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C2K_Rider
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| 09/20/2013 06:20 PM |
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Be aware:
As "Breaking Bad" fans look forward to the final two episodes of the series, they should also re-program their DVRs.
Both the September 22 episode, "Granite State," and the September 29 episode, "Felina," will run longer than 60 minutes. "Breaking Bad" writer/producer Peter Gould tweeted Wednesday that he "checked and its official: #BreakingBad eps are 75 minutes each w/commercials. Set your DVRS accordingly." |
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Gonzo Cyclist
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| 09/22/2013 11:48 AM |
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it is filmed in the city where I spent part of my growing up, Albq. NM. It's really kind of funny, this story is not really that far fetched in that city.
Not really into it, Breaking Bad, hits pretty close to home, my dumbass nephew will be spending most of his life in prison for being a meth cook/repeat offender, he'll be there until his seventies at least |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/23/2013 10:29 AM |
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Holy crap....this show is just an emotional roller coaster. FFS, how much more can Jesse take? Damn.....
And I guess we know who the Ricin is for now.....wouldn't want to be the Schwartz' right now. Or Uncle Jack and the Merry Band of Nazis.
Walter White almost came back......almost. But now there is just Heisenburg....and debts are about to get settled.
So next week will start with the two flashforward vignettes and then buckle up!!
(and is Todd just the creepiest guy or what? Dude is a total pyschopath. "Good night, Jesse." WTF?!?!? Youa re holding him in a cage and you are wishing him a "good night"?!?!)
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C2K_Rider
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| 09/23/2013 02:53 PM |
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Yep, He has to wrap up all the rage in his life in one swoop. How many people die next weeK?!?! And who lives?
A classic storyline brings out some kind of morality tale in which the main protagonist learns some lesson that changes his life for the better. Not going to happen here..... |
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jrt1045
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| 09/23/2013 03:45 PM |
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I likes how Todd is trying to morph into Walt so he can pick up Lydia - coffee shop scene. Remember when Walt moved out into his condo a few seasons ago and got a new wardrobe and fancy furnishings? Seeing Todd in the slacks and pressed shirt was kinda funny
Trying to figure out the phone call thing in the bar at the end. Was Walt ready to give up and then randomly seeing the interview with the Gray Matter folks steels his resolve...or did he plan to play it like that all along? It's like Heisenberg awakens and the Nazis are done
I have decided that Jessie is the only redeemable character, hope he makes it. Can't wait for next week |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/23/2013 04:00 PM |
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Maybe the phone call was giving up, or maybe to lead the police on a merry chase while he headed back to NM.
I'd stay the heck out of his way right now!
It just has to come down to Jesse and Walt. I can see it now: they reconcile and, hand and hand, look forward to a bright and sunny future together.
Maybe not. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/23/2013 06:23 PM |
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Here's my take.....his 3 months alone caused some serious self-reflection, which prompted the call to Flynn. Having his sin reject him summarily crushed him and he decided to give up....if nothing else so he could have Flynn understand why he did what he did (and that he did not kill Hank).
Then seeing the Schwartzes diminish his contributions and say he was only responsible for the name......well, that was too much. In the end, his relationship / decisions re: Gray Matter is the genesis of his transformation into Heisenberg and his quest for money. His cancer and providing for his family was just the trigger.....the root cause was his jealousy and feelings of failure from Gray Matter.
So the Ricin is for the Schwatzes and the M-60 for the Merry Band of Nazis.
@ jrt - one if the fascinating aspects of this show is how Jesse has become the moral compass of the show. Even though it began with his pathetic efforts at cooking meth, he has become the barometer for right / wrong. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/23/2013 08:21 PM |
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| Well, sort of. |
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jrt1045
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| 09/24/2013 09:10 AM |
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CK - we feel the same way. In the beginning Walt had a conscience and you wondered why he carried Jessie, he was a total loser. Now both Walt and Skyler are unredeemable. Wonder who makes it out alive next week? Imagine the buzz if it is a Sopranos ending
I don't think we've seen the last of Saul, either |
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thinline
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| 09/25/2013 09:02 AM |
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I saw a clip of Bryan C and Aaron P on Conan O'Brien. Funny moment of Cranston reading a fan letter written to him by a woman that wants to have sex with Aaron Paul. Anyway, O'Brien repeats a theory he heard that the show will end with Walt entering witness protection, getting a new family and new life, changies his name to Hal and PRESTO, it was all a prequel to Malcolm in the Middle. Kinda funny joke, but a bit of a ripoff of the classic Newhart flashback ending.
No idea how this will all end, but yeah, I think the ricin may be for his old business partners. I love that they are making dough off of drug rehab clinics in the southwest. And, I agre, I think the call to Jr may have had him on the verge of giving up, letting the phone dangle and going to the bar so the call would be traced and the Schwartz moment was too much. Either that, or he was just his usual sociopath self. |
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RNDDUDE
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| 09/27/2013 12:20 PM |
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I'm with Cosmic on the ending, but how about this for a twist...we see the Schwartz's receive a free sample of Ricin-laced tea in the mail, and decide to brew some up immediately, then a cut to a bar with the Nazi hoard, and WW comes in with the M60, and then cut to black ala Sopranos.
I have no idea how they will deal with Jessie, that will likely be the biggest surprise of all. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/29/2013 11:40 PM |
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Brilliant ending. No huge "OMG" moments, but the ending was executed perfectly and all loose ends were tied up.
Kudos (and major thanks) to Vince Gilligan for one (if not the) best show on TV ever. |
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C2K_Rider
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| 09/30/2013 12:24 AM |
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| Really well done with great twists and no cop outs. And one perfect payback. |
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jrt1045
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| 09/30/2013 10:26 AM |
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Who wants some Stevia?
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RNDDUDE
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| 09/30/2013 11:06 AM |
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| OK, I got the Ricin part almost correct, just the wrong people drinking it. Also the M60 being used on the Arians, albeit via remote control. Surprises to me (although brilliant) was the Schwartz's being enlisted to help get the $$$ back to the family, Jessie exacting his revenge on Todd, and Skyler allowing Walt back into her life one last time. Also Walt's admission as to his real motivation....excellent. There was, I believe, one loose end not tied up....Jessie's now-deceased girlfriend's kid. |
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zootracer
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| 09/30/2013 11:17 AM |
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Brilliant writing, acting and directing. Good ending, tied up all the loose ends. i can't remember getting so hooked on a t.v. show.
Thanks to NetFlix we were able to catch up with all the episodes from the beginning.
I hope Vince Gilligan has another project waiting in the wings.
My fav character I was Mike, played by Jonathan Banks. Role of a lifetime for an old character actor. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/30/2013 03:15 PM |
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@ rnddude.....Brook was the one aspect that was perfectly tied up (although, IIRC, Brook was her brother, not her kid). Anyway, he likely would have been put into the system following Andrea's murder, so it was wrapped up in a sense I suppose.
That said, in my little extended finale, Jesse grabbed Brook and hightailed it out of town.
@ zoot - Mike was, IMO, one of the best, if not THE best, character in a character-driven show (which says something). Banks played him to perfection. A man who had lost everything (including as Banks himself noted, his soul) and had accepted that.
"Elliott, if we are gonna go that way, you are gonna need a bigger knife." Great line delivered to perfection....with just the right amount of exhaustion and certainty.
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RNDDUDE
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| 09/30/2013 04:32 PM |
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kid, you are right, brother not son. If anyone watched the "talking breaking bad" show after the finale where they talked with the cast and Vince Gilligan, the issue came up when they were asking various cast members where Jessie was likely going after escaping the compound, and Banks (Mike) said "I know where he was going...to pick up Brook!" So I guess he agreed with you on that one!
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/30/2013 05:31 PM |
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Yeah, I've been watching TB all season. Forget if I had mentioned it in this thread or not, but my guess (hope) was that Jesse survived and ended up with Brock, so I was glad someone else thought the same.
Jonathon Banks' comments last night were great.....one of the best character actors (remember him in Beveryly Hills Cop?) in the role of a lifetime for him and he knew it would be the pinnacle of his career.
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