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Last Post 02/13/2017 11:30 AM by Hot Habanero. 8 Replies.
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Spud

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01/30/2017 12:06 PM
What's next? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-hidden-magnets-the-next-big-cheat-in-cycling/
79pmooney

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01/30/2017 03:06 PM
UCI hates this guy. If they were smart, they would swallow their pride and hire him. He is way more on the ball than they are.

Edit: My prediction?  That these have already won races that will come to light and that UCI's tablet couldn't find them on the mechanics bench, let alone in a haystack.

Ben
Cosmic Kid

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01/30/2017 03:51 PM
Well someone needs to show me the technical breakdown on how magnets in the wheel provide propulsion....not pseudo-science.

Not saying that motors haven't been used, but his explanation re: the wheel magnets sounds too hocus-pocus for me.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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01/30/2017 04:05 PM
You need the magnets and you need the electromagnets. I couldn't see that video as I refuse to remove AdBlock but I gather that is all inside the rim. (Doesn't make full sense to me, but I am not an electrical engineer at all.) To me, that wheel needs an anchor to balance the torque created, either a stop at the dropout, a solidly nutted axle (like required for internally geared hubs) or a frame mounted either magnet, coil or substantial piece of metal.

That bit about Sky's bikes being consistently a pound or two above minimum? Marginal gains?

Ben

Cosmic Kid

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01/30/2017 04:40 PM
I haven't seen the video, but from what I have heard, they were referencing TT bikes, not road bikes. So consistently 800g above the minimum is not too surprising. Aero trumps weight....

Schitt....I gotta find a better way to phrase that now, don't I?

Aero > weight. Better.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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01/30/2017 05:53 PM
This about sums it up...waste of TV time.

http://deadspin.com/if-motodoping-exists-60-minutes-sure-didnt-prove-it-1791719104
Dale

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01/30/2017 07:44 PM
Pretty typical of 60 minutes-- loads of sensationalism, not much evidence. The 1999 going Postal bike was a nice touch to stoke the fires of speculation. Not that I wouldn't put it past -7 but the innuendo was weak sauce.

That said... I think motorcycles (hate the motor doping term) have been ridden in the pro's but the spinning rear wheels, Sparticus drilling an attack, and other sensationalism stuff doesn't convince me that those are the cheaters.

Did the Sky bikes weight 800 grams more than the regular bikes or the TT bikes. I thought they were 800 grams than comparable TT bikes. If so, somethings rotten in Denmark... or England; wherever they're based

That the French police weren't allowed to inspect the bikes is a non-starter, they have no jurisdiction so for them to waltz in and start confiscating bikes is absurd. UCI was right to tell them to pound sand.
79pmooney

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01/31/2017 02:15 AM
Posted By Dale Dale on 01/30/2017 07:44 PM That the French police weren't allowed to inspect the bikes is a non-starter, they have no jurisdiction so for them to waltz in and start confiscating bikes is absurd. UCI was right to tell them to pound sand.

Yeah, but - the French gendarmes (sp) have been a lot more on top of pro race cheating than the UCI!  How many more years would Festina have taken without them?

Ben
Habanero

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02/13/2017 11:30 AM
Spot on Ben. Despite hating the guy, the UCI has no one else on board with the expertise to ferret this out. They need him on board as a consultant on motorcycles and get rid of the useless tablets.
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