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Orange Crush

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10/22/2013 05:55 PM
let me know when you guys figure this one out
Cosmic Kid

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10/22/2013 06:05 PM
I hear ya, ben, but the problem is that there are WAY too many docs who are willing to say "Oh, feeling a little tired these days? Here's a scrip for some Andro."

Jeez, go down to the Miami area or Scottsdale and see how many "Aging Clinics" there are......

Like I said, if a guy is taking T and riding as a MOP kinda guy (either as a Categorized rider for USAC or Age grouper for USAT), I really couldn't care less if theya re taking T. But when you start getting to the front of the line and getting wins / placements, and you don't have a TUE? Different story, IMO.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Keith Richards

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10/22/2013 06:22 PM
CK speaks the truth. Docs are willing to give men anything they ask for. I was at the urologist and I literally just MENTIONED all the ED drugs on the market and the ads and he immediately shot back, "have a issue? you need some?"

EASY my brother...just asking.
----- It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong.
79pmooney

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10/23/2013 03:01 AM
Oh, I believe a TUE should be required, AND the doctor accountable for subscribing it. Not claiming for a second this is easy.

Ben
jacques_anquetil

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10/23/2013 11:28 AM
Posted By Cosmic Kid on 10/21/2013 06:05 PM
But is this guy "cheating" to finish mid-pack in a Cat. 4 race? Clearly not....but what happens if (when?) he starts to get results? How do you handle that situation?

It is a murky road ahead.....


We had this exact situation happen here in Ontario. Masters racer, nationals podium placer, gets busted for T, seems unrepentant. Long discussion on ST about it: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=4093825; (apologies for bringing up ST again)
THE SKINNY

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10/23/2013 12:20 PM
what if he tries to get the TUE but gets denied? can he still race with T in his system if he says up front "i'm on T but i couldn't get a TUE"?
How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
Cosmic Kid

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10/23/2013 03:06 PM
Well, I suppose he can.....but he is asking to get a suspension.

I have heard of guys signing up for triathlons and advising the RD ahead of time that they are taking T and to have their results nullified. But that is a different animal than bike racing....largely an individual effort.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Entheo

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10/23/2013 04:15 PM
Posted By Keith Jackson on 10/22/2013 11:20 AM
I think guys need to be honest about their Walter Mitty ways as it pertains to cycling. Dude in the article should just find his local fast group ride and be happy.


true dat.
The Short White Guy™

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10/23/2013 09:23 PM
Posted By Keith Jackson on 10/22/2013 06:22 PM
CK speaks the truth. Docs are willing to give men anything they ask for. I was at the urologist and I literally just MENTIONED all the ED drugs on the market and the ads and he immediately shot back, "have a issue? you need some?"

EASY my brother...just asking.

Geez Keith, if that was the case my Nephrologist would give me EPO every time I ask for it.

Maybe I need to ask him a different way?
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