Pin0Q0
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| 06/26/2014 03:58 PM |
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Remember Inga, I remember hearing her name but that’s it. Interesting article, but it doesn’t quite tell the whole story somehow. Can’t figure out why she is speaking out now after not being around the sport for 20 odd years.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/06/news/perspectives-doping-pro-cycling-inga-thompson_333513 |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 06/26/2014 04:07 PM |
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Woman had some long-ass braids.....
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| Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
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jmdirt
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| 06/26/2014 06:15 PM |
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| I'm glad that she's willing to speak out. |
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SideBySide
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| 06/26/2014 07:17 PM |
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I feel so naive about all that happened. It is all so unfair to the honest.  |
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Oldfart
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| 06/26/2014 10:50 PM |
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| Still common in sports. My wife had similar experiences with the Canadian alpine ski team. She questioned the coaches all the time and she's way smarter than any of those coaches. No doping but the control thing for sure. And some athletes are too competitive. They will get injured and go find a doctor that will tell them what they want to hear. I know people that are trainers, physics, ski techs that tell us stories. Some of the $4it that goes on is unbelievable. Athlete in the start gate at a World Cup. Oh are those your training skis? Good luck. Just because she wouldn't sleep with the dick. Athletes that ski hard and re injure their knee. Went to several docs until they heard that they could ski. |
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79pmooney
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| 06/27/2014 02:26 AM |
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Inga's 2012 Velonews article:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/12/analysis/opinion-thompson-says-cleaning-house-is-the-only-way-forward_267849
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ChinookPass
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| 06/27/2014 11:10 AM |
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| That was the cold war. What kind of patriot is she if she wouldn't even dope for her country? Even the Russians in Breaking Away were doing transfusions. |
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Pin0Q0
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| 06/27/2014 11:14 AM |
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| Nice piece - My only criticism is why did she wait so long? Why didn't she make her voice heard at the time when she was fed up and decided to walk away from the sport? She wants to be remembered as a crusader NOW, little too late Inga and leave your son out of it. Landis got the ball rolling didn't he? But he did it because he couldn't get a job not because it was an honorable Amish thing to do, and to revenge LA for which I am glad. |
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79pmooney
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| 06/27/2014 12:48 PM |
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Pin0Q0. it's not too late. The (ex) dopers and their compatriots are threaded deeply throughout all racing organizations now. Speaking up 5 years ago would have been like yelling into a hurricane. Now, cycling has "reformed", but has it really?
Who holds the highest position in cycling in this country? Steve Johnson. To his credit, all the doping throughout the LA/Postal years happened with any knowledge at his end. And if you believe that, I've got a nice bridge you should buy. And the organization that is proud to have voted him into another term? Would you want your son racing under such people?
I think her timing is right on. I am a lot less sure we are ready now to listen. ("We" being US and world cycling collectively,k not just this forum.)
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79pmooney
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| 06/27/2014 01:04 PM |
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As soon as I posted this, I read the Velonews headline about UCI and Antidoping Switzerland teaming up and realized that things are changing; that was do have a good man at the top (of world cycling, but not US cycling). Now, Cookson has the unenviable task of having to change everything and that isn't even remotely possible. European women speaking up like Inga will help remind all why this is needed. (Maybe a few mom's who lost their sons in their sleep 20 years ago?)
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Orange Crush
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| 06/27/2014 01:10 PM |
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He who shall not be named will take some heart from that interview too 
I got limited value out of the Inga interview; but there's a bunch of good perspectives on that site in general; for example the Theo de Rooij interview; Tygart interview; Verbruggen...couple must reads there.
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SideBySide
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| 06/27/2014 01:55 PM |
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Posted By Kameron Kameron on 06/27/2014 11:14 AM
Nice piece - My only criticism is why did she wait so long? Why didn't she make her voice heard at the time when she was fed up and decided to walk away from the sport? She wants to be remembered as a crusader NOW, little too late Inga and leave your son out of it. Landis got the ball rolling didn't he? But he did it because he couldn't get a job not because it was an honorable Amish thing to do, and to revenge LA for which I am glad.
She waited because she was fed up and no-one would have listened or believed her. Do you think anything would have been different if she had said something, or would she have just gotten more abuse? I think she was smart, not afraid. Mentioning her son is perfectly reasonable. She is worried for him, as any mom would be.
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stinkyhelmet
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| 06/27/2014 03:58 PM |
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In this age of the internet and social media, it is easy to speak up and be heard.
In her time, speaking up would have meant waiting a month or more to read about it in some limited readership cycling rag......no impact and certainly no change.
No outrage on forums = no change :-) |
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Orange Crush
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| 06/27/2014 04:22 PM |
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Posted By SideBy Side on 06/27/2014 01:55 PM
Posted By Kameron Kameron on 06/27/2014 11:14 AM
Nice piece - My only criticism is why did she wait so long?
She waited because she was fed up and no-one would have listened or believed her.
Theo de Rooij makes exactly that point in his outer ring interview. Who were riders going to complain to? |
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KootnaMoots
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| 06/28/2014 04:37 PM |
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I posted this on the other thread and I have a question. Wasn't this the same time frame of the Lemond years. Not trying to start something but am curious. At my age the only memory I have left is what I had for lunch and that was 1 hour ago.
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longslowdistance
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| 06/28/2014 05:06 PM |
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And did Eddy B did coach Greg before he went to France?
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jacques_anquetil
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| 06/29/2014 09:45 PM |
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| oh c'mon. who among us of a certain age didn't have a crush on Inga? And Rebecca Twigg? |
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Dale
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| 06/30/2014 09:44 AM |
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Did you intend to make that past tense, Jacques
And you're forgetting Leontien Zijlaard-van Moorsel  |
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Pin0Q0
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| 06/30/2014 12:41 PM |
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| Betsy, Frankie, TH and FL all eventually got heard! My point is sure you were against it but don't try and come off as martyr. After quitting she could have gone on record if she was that concerned and outraged. |
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79pmooney
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| 06/30/2014 01:01 PM |
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Pin, Inga does not come across to me as being a martyr or wanting to be perceived as one. She sonds to me like a rather healthy person who, after some real sadness at having to walk away from her passion, got on with her life, looking forward, not back. When, years later, she saw that she could speak up about the past and her hopes for the future and that those words would be heard and she not denounced, she did.
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Cosmic Kid
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| 06/30/2014 05:30 PM |
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Posted By jacques anquetil on 06/29/2014 09:45 PM
oh c'mon. who among us of a certain age didn't have a crush on Inga? And Rebecca Twigg?
Inga did nothing for me...Twigg was cute.
But Eve Stephenson? Yes, please!! |
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ChinookPass
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| 06/30/2014 05:43 PM |
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| Crushes on other cyclists deserves its own thread! Is this chauvinism or just natural thread drift? |
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KootnaMoots
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| 06/30/2014 07:38 PM |
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I kinda think that Pippa might be worth a vote. She looks good in Lycra, what else do ya need. A geezers observation
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longslowdistance
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| 06/30/2014 08:07 PM |
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Back to the doping angle and Inga's revelations regarding what was expected of her, quote lifted from another thread:
" Like it or not this is . . . how the game is played and you guys better get with the program. " said Eddy B to Inga, said Lance to his teammates, said college trainers to football players, etc. etc. |
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