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Orange Crush

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08/26/2020 02:32 PM
CK - A 17 year old, his name and picture are already all over the internet. Your average looking 17 year old (I have two of them), in summer shorts, while brandishing an assault rifle.

LSD - sure but the US is not alone in having done a lot of things wrong and right. This pretty much goes for every country. I could rattle of half a dozen items for Canada (residential schools, internment of Japanese-Canadians etc.) or the Netherlands (colonialism, slave trade etc.).

The issue as I see it is your politics has been adrift for a few decades. Or as Ben Lerner put it in an essay today, the November election could be the final exit before Trump's way could be the only way remaining (it was posted in a Dutch paper and I can't find an English original). The Republican party has been drifting further and further into extreme positions (if you can all them that). The Democrats trying to target that magical middle have been following along in this drift to the right leaving an ever widening gaping hole in the political spectrum to left and no one looking out for the average voter. So why bother to show up then?

And from another perspective, my brief history of recent republican presidents is as follows.
Nixon tried to get away with illegal acts but got booted (or took the honor upon himself to exit).

Reagan successfully managed to hide behind plausible deniability even though everyone knew he was guilty.

By the time W came along, no attempt is made to hide illegal actions, they were out in the open. An illegal war? Sure why not. Illegal rendition? Sure why not. Waterboaring? We have a memo for that. This same guy is now being celebrated by TV hosts with a big smirk on his face and apparently has a high approval rating among democratic voters.

Is it any wonder then that Trump declares he can shoot someone in broad daylight and get away with it. And that now you have his followers actually acting on this? By giving previous actions a pass, you are now squarely in a situation where anything goes. So Obama can give a nice speech about Trump being a danger to democracy (he is) but it is that same Obama who decided to give the W administration a pass and "look forward". Its all a logical sequence of events.

/end rant.
smokey52

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08/28/2020 08:34 PM
I guess it's easier to believe lies than to accept the truth.
Cosmic Kid

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09/19/2020 06:31 AM
RIP, Notorious RBG. She may have been small in stature, but she was truly fierce. A towering giant of a woman.

We are now officially fooked as a society.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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09/21/2020 08:46 AM
Nauseated at the prospect of this evil, dysfunctional dictator packing the court with another partisan hack.

What a distressing time
smokey52

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09/28/2020 09:57 AM
I'm shocked! shocked! that tRump is all show and no substance in all his business endeavors.
79pmooney

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09/28/2020 04:03 PM
smokey, have you been following the NY Times articles on tRump's tax returns? (No substance? His business losses as reported to the IRS are substantial.)

Enlightening reading:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200927&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta®i_id=119138258&segment_id=39191&user_id=a1d9a383c87e899abb6914a995b92637

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes-timeline.html

Pretty clear that rTump is "banking" on another term as a debt shield. Next few years he has a few coming due.

I just spent a few hours going through 5 years of canceled checks, keeping a few, tossing a paper bag of the rest. Part of cleaning up my life so when I go I don't leave a mess but also part of trying to leave an open life. There is stuff n there I am not proud of, but it is what it is and if someone goes through my stuff, it's there/

In the process, I got to see the checks I wrote out the IRS every year. These were the tough post head injury years when I was working for not a whole lot of money. Every year, a check in the thousands. In only 3 of those years did tRump pay more than I did.

Ben
Orange Crush

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09/28/2020 04:45 PM

In only 3 of those years did tRump pay more than I did.

Ben


Yeah, that is borderline insane. Then again you probably also paid more than Amazon paid in corporate taxes. Was that not zero in 2019? The attention Trump's tax avoidance (or evasion? The distinction is important) gets is well-deserved but he's still just a 2 bit player in this shell game.



Dale

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09/29/2020 08:14 AM
OC, we can bag on tRump all day long but you are spot on. There is something inherently wrong with the system that allows tax avoidance to that degree. Big corporations, uber-wealthy, and those in poverty pay little to no income tax while the rest of us pay our full amount and then some.
79pmooney

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09/30/2020 03:24 PM
I get the NY Times Briefings. This morning had a real funny. Back to back true statements.

"Biden’s bottom line: 'Under this president, we have become weaker, sicker, poorer, more divided, and more violent.' Trump’s bottom line: 'In 47 months, I’ve done more than you’ve done in 47 years, Joe.'"

Yup.

longslowdistance

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09/30/2020 09:27 PM
45's base could care less. What a mess.
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 09:46 PM
It just came to mind that your elections have all the makings of the insanity that was trench warfare in WW1. How long has this circus been going on now? So much time for everyone to dig deep trenches that they subsequently refuse to get out of even when war is over (election is done). And so eternal hatred and distrust is born. Crazy.

I just learned last week that I’ll be voting in three weeks. Provincial but still. A sane timeline. Plenty of time for folks to make up their mind.
longslowdistance

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10/01/2020 10:49 AM
Read and op ed that 45 is going bonkers as part of a planned deal: I (45) go quietly if you don't prosecute.
Cosmic Kid

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10/02/2020 12:06 PM
Read and op ed that 45 is going bonkers as part of a planned deal: I (45) go quietly if you don't prosecute.


No way....just like I doubt the COVID19 tests are a stunt to get him out on "health reasons".

His narcissism would never let him seem weak or frail. It is not within a narcissists makeup to be able to let others view them that way.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
smokey52

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10/02/2020 08:10 PM
Who would have thought that Herman Cain would be tRump's role model?
longslowdistance

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10/02/2020 08:57 PM
Hard so hard not to lay in on the irony. But even with 45's inadequacy, at this point in time, IMO, the US and world would be better if he was not more ill than his usual baseline. Get sick in mid November, but not now.
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