longslowdistance
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| 10/02/2020 10:15 PM |
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Shoe dropped.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2020/10/01/american-cyclist-suspended-by-team-after-pro-trump-comments/114176050/
The lead is generous. A dick is a dick. It's a business.
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Cosmic Kid
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| 11/03/2020 09:13 PM |
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| We are completely lost as a country....Trump is actually gonna win this. |
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79pmooney
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| 11/03/2020 10:15 PM |
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CK I am holding out hope that the uncounted mail-in ballots sway a few red states. NY Times has a list of the states, what the margin in that state is and the number of predicted uncounted ballots. Many red states have several times the margin uncounted. I"m hoping many of those are blue.
I don't think we are going to know until the end of the week. This could be messy. Messy like civil unrest we haven't seen in our lifetimes perhaps. |
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Orange Crush
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| 11/04/2020 09:23 AM |
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| Seeing overnight trend in some of the swing states I think Biden will take this by a very tiny whisker. But it’s closer than Lemond versus Fignon. Minimal if any gain in senate and disappointing losses in house. Lessons continue to not be learned. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 11/04/2020 09:38 AM |
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Seeing overnight trend in some of the swing states I think Biden will take this by a very tiny whisker. But it’s closer than Lemond versus Fignon. Minimal if any gain in senate and disappointing losses in house. Lessons continue to not be learned.
Here is the hard core reality....no significant gains in the House, failure to take control of the Senate and maybe a narrow WH win. The country showed that they have embraced Trumpism last night.
Assume for a minute that Biden wins (big if)....GOP still controls the Senate, so no matter what the WH and the House try and do, it all dies on the Senate floor. No COVID relief, no court reform, no judicial nominees confirmed (hell they may not even have votes on Biden cabinet nominees), the SC is still packed 6-3 so Roe v Wade dies, ACA is wiped out and gay marriage gets overturned. In the meantime, the economy will crater in 2021, Biden and the Dems will be blamed and GOP coasts in 2024.
We are so completely and deeply fooked. |
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6ix
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| 11/04/2020 10:14 AM |
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Completely agree with CK.
So my question is this. Once they strip away ACA, what happens to everyone that has pre-existing conditions who works for themselves? Totally screwed? Whole lot of people are going to be without insurance due to Covid being considered a pre-existing condition. But hey, at least all those unwanted babies will be saved. Only care about them until they are born, then phook off!! That's the GOP mentality. They want all the control but none of the responsibility.
It's high time California, Oregon and Washington (please include Colorado) break away. |
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Orange Crush
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| 11/04/2020 10:45 AM |
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Yes agreed CK. Even if Biden wins you are pretty much looking at 4 years of lame duck and an overall stalemate.
Whatever you make of the electoral college, the popular vote shows that about half the country sees fit to vote for a racist. And somewhere in Nebraska, a quarter or the vote went against an addendum to abolish slavery as a method of punishment. That about sums it up. |
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79pmooney
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| 11/04/2020 12:07 PM |
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| On a lighter note: we are Biden our time to see if we have to make America grate some more. |
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79pmooney
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| 11/04/2020 12:55 PM |
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OC, slavery is completely core to this country's existence. Early colonialists who came to South Carolina were given land based on the slaves and indentured servants they procured to work it. Many of them were from wealthy families but were 4th sons and not in line for any inheritance. Or from very wealthy families that lost it with the swings of power between the English monarchy, church and overthrows. Those landowners/slave holders were a small minority among first the Natives, then the African slaves. To give them an equal place at the table when the Constitution was being drafted, they got to count 3/5ths of their slaves as people. That still didn't give them enough. 2 senators per state, despite the far lower populations of the southern states helped boost their share of power. The electoral college furthered that. The North got to be proud of their "better" non-slave status (took those states varying times to abolish slavery), all the while profiting immensely from the raw product produced s cheaply in the South. (And allowing federal marshals to comb their stated looking for escaped slave, capturing both ex-slaves and freed men and returning them to slavery.)
After the civil war, the South got to count the freed Blacks but suppressed the Black vote. Also got slavery formalized in the Constitutions for the first time. In the penal system. Together with the concept that all Black men are born felons, that has played out rather well. There are penitentiaries where the primary labor is working cotton fields for private landowners. There is a song "Angola Prison Blues" about a teen jailed for life for a murder he didn't do picking cotton outside the Angola Penitentiary (located in Louisiana where the Angola Plantation stood antebellum) working the fields his slave ancestors worked. The teen might be fiction. The rest is true. I heard the story from Christian Scott, jazz trumpeter from New Orleans. He tells it as the teen being his cousin, at his house when the murder took place,
Big picture, we aren't a much prettier society than the Spanish empire or the British empire and unless we change our ways a lot, we are probably not going to fare much better. (Does anybody remember a powerful country spending its way in to bankruptcy in an arms race while bogged down militarily in a poor, divided country; all the time suppressing its citizens and keeping thousands imprisoned. It was a long time ago, thirty years, but maybe the clue that the country's initials were like ours; four letters starting with US will help.) |
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longslowdistance
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| 11/04/2020 08:27 PM |
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| Hoping that Biden and McConnell will get it together and get some bipartisan stuff done. Fixing the pandemic response is number one, perhaps could be followed shortly with the massive infrastructure bill that Trump should have made his first task to prove he was not just a bomb thrower. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 11/04/2020 09:20 PM |
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LSD, there is zero incentive for McConnell to work with Biden (if he wins). No COVID reliefs, no judicial nominations, government shutdowns...economy really hits the skids and Dems lose the House in 2022 and then GOP takes the WH back in 2024.
We are fooked. |
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Orange Crush
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| 11/04/2020 10:03 PM |
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Mitch working together? Bahahaha.
If that was the game plan then go back to start. Do not collect $$. |
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Dale
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| 11/04/2020 11:20 PM |
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^ 100% correct. They have proven they’d rather destroy the country than do anything cooperative with the democrats.
Massive pandemic? Economic collapse? Devastating trade war? Rollback of pollution laws?
As long as we’re the last man standing and we can regain total power, it’s all fine.
Such evil. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 11/05/2020 01:45 PM |
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Race is tightening up across the board...only person to extend a lead is Biden in NV.
PA Sec of State said they hope to complete counting today / this evening. That would seal the deal if Biden wins it....won't matter what happens in AZ, NV or GA after that. |
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longslowdistance
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| 11/05/2020 06:37 PM |
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Saw a funny meme (well, funny at least to me, YMMV):
Ivanka Trump just applied to become Joe Biden's daughter. |
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