79pmooney
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| 09/10/2020 03:03 PM |
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I got shingles before I qualified.
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Dale
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| 09/10/2020 04:15 PM |
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| Ben, that's why I cajoled my doc into getting the shots early. Sorry you ended up with shingles, I hear nothing good about it. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/10/2020 06:54 PM |
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The marker for the shingles vaccine has been lowered to 50....and you can get it twice, so get the vaccine even if you already had it.
I had a VERY mild case about 14 years ago...small spot on the right side of my face. I was lucky!
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Orange Crush
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| 09/10/2020 07:19 PM |
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| When the horizontal rain hits is when it’s vaccine season. Right now it’s summer still. October... |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/10/2020 07:47 PM |
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Some vaccination clarification:
The current shingles best option is a two dose joyfest, but definitely more effective than the previous best one injection v1.0.
As for flu shots, the experts are saying get it now. But I have no issue with folks waiting a few weeks as OC chooses. In some folks the immunity fades after a few months, although not much, which is a mild argument to delay. And the downside is small, as flu does not circulate widely in the fall in normal years. With Covid restrictions it will circulate far less. Case in point: Flu season in Australia this year was very mild. It might have been a perfect flu shot blend, but IMO it had to be the Covid restrictions. Ditto here in the US: flu deaths late last winter and spring after the Covid lockdown were far lower than long term averages.
BTW, in case there are 45 fans here: don't drink bleach. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/10/2020 08:02 PM |
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It’s not even a matter of choice LSD. The experts here seem to differ with you guys and are going for usual roll out schedule which only ramps up end of Sep and happens through most of October. That’s what they say here is most effective. There was actually a news article on it this week, hey the us is starting flue shots early, shouldn’t we too?
I have yet to see the first corporate flu shot, reserve your spot now, email. Btw this will be first time ever I get one. I have an issue with things that provide a poor return on investment, even when they’re free. At any rate I am busy enough at work that I can’t afford to have to take a day off due to flu symptoms that could be misinterpreted as Covid symptoms so that is why this is the year. Can’t recall when I had flu either. Last year I didn’t even get a cold sniffle. That too goes with the adrenaline that comes with a high speed work environment. I actually lose weight sitting at my desk. |
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Dale
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| 09/10/2020 08:45 PM |
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BTW, in case there are 45 fans here: don't drink bleach.
Bwahaha... well done!
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longslowdistance
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| 09/10/2020 09:08 PM |
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Sorry for the rant, but there is so much BS out there now, and as I read this post, I see through it.
Odds you will have to take a day off after a flu shot are essentially zero. If you are looking for excuses, have at it, enjoy your day off.
Odds you will have to take a day off after the shingles vaccine are pretty much zero. You will feel crappy the next morning so take some Tylenol or NSAIDs or not, regardless you will feel much much better by the end of the next day. If you are looking for excuses, have at it.
If you don't want a flu vaccine because it's inconvenient (you are lazy), shame on you. The flu shot is not just about you.
If you don't want a shingles series because it's inconvenient and unpleasant, that's your choice, you won't directly harm anyone else unless you have job that makes your help to others immediate and hard to replace. Otherwise have at it.
As for "I knew a guy who knew a guy" anecdotes, no thank you.
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Orange Crush
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| 09/10/2020 09:40 PM |
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Hmm that’s not actually what I wrote about. Not concerned at all about effects of getting these shots. It is what it is.
What I’m talking about is flue shot effectiveness numbers that get published by CDC every year and which are disappointing most years. Last year 38-44 percent depending on age group.
In comparison most vaccines including new shingles are 90% or better.
The flue vaccine remains a major medical challenge. I understand the challenge but just can’t fathom how as humanity we haven’t made significant progress on this. One of areas where I have my hopes on AI to set us straight and tell us where we mucked up. In meantime I’ll read through stats year after year and remain a sceptic. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/10/2020 09:42 PM |
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No “I knew a guy” anecdotes from me....the shingles vaccine knocked me on my ass in March. Started felling achy by the evening, spiked a fever overnight and went to urgent care the next AM (mostly because I was concerned it was COVID). By the following day, I was mostly OK, maybe a little lethargic.
Had my shot today ~12....starting to feel a bit achy, but definitely not as bad as last time *knocks wood*
I’ve never had a reaction to a flu shot (other than a sore arm)....
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79pmooney
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| 09/10/2020 11:26 PM |
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Posted By Dale Dale on 09/10/2020 04:15 PM
Ben, that's why I cajoled my doc into getting the shots early. Sorry you ended up with shingles, I hear nothing good about it.
Dale, I got the medicine in time. It sucked but it wasn't hell. Didn't miss any work. No long term except and off itch in the hollow of my sternum that I notice every few months.
I've been passing on the shingles because of the cost but my situation is better and I may do it. It's not a huge concern for me because I know the symptoms and what to do and on this one, you can take action after you see the symptoms (as long as you stay within the window). |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/11/2020 06:41 AM |
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Pretty long night last night....slightly achy and chills. Couldn’t relax enough to sleep more than an hour or so at a time.
Tylenol helped take the edge off, though....and definitely not as bad as the first dose! Gonna lay low today....I think there may be a bike race to watch.  |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/12/2020 04:43 PM |
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Felt OK this AM and decided to hop the trainer this afternoon since it has been pissing down rain all day.....
Bad idea. 4x12 SweetSpot intervals were on the schedule. Suffice to say it did not go well....barely made it through the first set, reduced workload by 10% and then quit after the second. Body just not ready, I guess!! |
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