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Cosmic Kid

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01/21/2021 12:50 PM
Btw the steady stream of Bernie memes in his old coat and hand knitted mittens is a whole lot of unscripted awesomeness.


Agreed....except for this one, which will require therapy for me to move past it.

Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
zootracer

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01/22/2021 12:50 AM
Basic Instinct....
79pmooney

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01/22/2021 10:36 AM

Posted By Orange Crush on 01/20/2021 09:01 PM
Ben - good points and good goals but it will take a vast amount of work to get there. Symbolism is nice on the day it happens but ultimately doesn’t yield results in and by itself.

This is a good read on progress that was being made in MLK days which got stopped in its track and to a degree got reversed when trickle down Ronnie started stirring politics.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2021/01/18/recent-events-show-the-strong-need-for-joe-biden-to-return-to-the-democratic-impulses-of-the-great-society/?fbclid=IwAR0b4YvVPpNsLjV1_jpft2utp0taX-GPLOitKtAXbNq3NTTc1SiobqA3rx0


OC, the bigger setback than Ronnie was losing Malcom X. Reagan had the power, but if at every step, the Black world got the hear Malcom X's take on what was happening in DC, I am quite sure things would have been different. (And we would have heard that from the mouth of someone who could out-speak Ronnie in any debate!)

But to current - the changes coming in Biden's 4 years. If he just starts a new era like Reconstruction, an era that lasts like Jim Crow did, starts the new conversation, he will have done a lot. And I don't expect this to come from his executive decisions but he has already started it with his VP choice. Shown it with his inauguration choices. If he just acts as bandaid man and placeholder, but paves the way for Kamala or another with vision and helps this nation come to accept that things are changing, that Jim Crow is finally dying and those who cling to it are going to fall behind, he will have done a lot. In real terms, probably as much as MLK or X. (He is not remotely one of those men but I think he gets that he is in one of those rare places to make a difference.)

We will see, He might just be a politician (and yes, a pretty good one) or he might have some of Jimmy Carter's heart AND the political skill to pull stuff off. And, yes, this is going to get ugly. This is going to threaten everything for our biggest minority, the radical right. But unlike our other large minority, they can "go to the other side", something only very light skinned Blacks can do. Eventually many of them will figure out life is better over here. Sadly, this is something for my nieces and nephews and their offspring to see. I might get to see the very beginning.
79pmooney

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02/17/2021 10:37 AM
The military and Trump - the NY Times reported today that they had withheld the promotions of two generals; one Army, one Air Force to 4 stars until Trump was out of office. Both are female.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/us/politics/trump-biden-promotions-women-generals.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20210217&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta®i_id=119138258&segment_id=51810&user_id=a1d9a383c87e899abb6914a995b92637
From that article:

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WASHINGTON — Last fall, the Pentagon’s most senior leaders agreed that two top generals should be promoted to elite, four-star commands.

For then-Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the tricky part was that both of the accomplished officers were women. In 2020 America under President Trump, the two Pentagon leaders feared that any candidates other than white men for jobs mostly held by white men might run into turmoil once their nominations got to the White House.

Mr. Esper and General Milley worried that if they even raised their names — Gen. Jacqueline D. Van Ovost of the Air Force and Lt. Gen. Laura J. Richardson of the Army — the Trump White House would replace them with their own candidates before leaving office.

So the Pentagon officials agreed on an unusual strategy: They held back their recommendations until after the November elections, betting that if Joseph R. Biden Jr. won, he and his aides would be more supportive of the Pentagon picks than Mr. Trump, who had feuded with Mr. Esper and has a history of disparaging women. They stuck to the plan even after Mr. Trump fired Mr. Esper six days after the election.

“They were chosen because they were the best officers for the jobs, and I didn’t want their promotions derailed because someone in the Trump White House saw that I recommended them or thought D.O.D. was playing politics,” Mr. Esper said in an interview, referring to the Department of Defense. “This was not the case. They were the best qualified. We were doing the right thing.”

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What a concept - the military being far more progressive than the executive branch! Doing a dance to promote women to the highest command.
79pmooney

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03/02/2021 09:18 AM
Yeah!! What's supposed to happen in the Executive Branch under the Pres and CIC.

"The pharmaceutical giant Merck & Co will help manufacture the new Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine under a highly unusual deal, brokered by the White House."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/02/world/covid-19-coronavirus?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20210302&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta®i_id=119138258&segment_id=52619&user_id=a1d9a383c87e899abb6914a995b92637#under-a-white-house-brokered-deal-merck-will-help-boost-supplies-of-its-rival-johnson-johnsons-vaccine

Haven't read the article yet but I've been thinking for the past year that doesn't the CIC have wartime power to be able to get rival companies to make products one had patents etc. for. (If Joe's Optics had a patent on a needed bombsight part, would production of the B17 of WW2 rolled to a stop because Joe's Optical only had 3 employees?)

So Pres Biden stepped up and did what the Pres is supposed to do. Take charge (or better - delegate to qualified people those tasks) and see to it what needs to happen happens. Right on! And doing it with the vaccine that can (perhaps literally) save the world. The one-shot, low refrigeration requirement vaccine. And he did it by getting one of the biggest pharmaceuticals in the world on board.

Yes, there are going to be some interesting discussions in boardrooms, on the stock market floor and elsewhere. Big money will be made by some. Others will take a hit (but I doubt will be cast in the street). But this is what capitalism can do. When someone takes charge. Thank you Joe.

Edit: The third paragraph (and I promise I hadn't even opened the article when I typed the above. Just lifted the first sentence.

"Merck is an experienced vaccine manufacturer whose own attempt at making a coronavirus vaccine was unsuccessful. Officials described the partnership between the two competitors as “historic,” and said it harkens back to Mr. Biden’s vision of a wartime effort to fight the coronavirus, similar to the manufacturing campaigns waged during World War II."
longslowdistance

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03/02/2021 02:27 PM
Unintended consequence: some meds are not being produced now to maximize vaccine production, an issue for some.
79pmooney

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03/02/2021 05:44 PM

Posted By Frederick Jones on 03/02/2021 02:27 PM
Unintended consequence: some meds are not being produced now to maximize vaccine production, an issue for some.


Had our CIC used the power he was granted a year ago, we wouldn't have needed to super-rush the vaccine to prevent the next 100,000 deaths. Yes, you are right but we are now into the mess of trying to minimize deaths, not prevent them.
smokey52

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03/02/2021 08:42 PM
LSD- just curious, do you have any examples of diverted production leading to shortages?
longslowdistance

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03/03/2021 12:48 PM
Some generics have been in short supply because the precursors are directed to vaccine.
smokey52

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03/03/2021 05:08 PM
Again, any specific examples? Vaccine supply and generic supply don't usually overlap, except maybe in excipients and packaging. Lots of generics are abandoned because of economics.
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