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Last Post 06/24/2013 06:39 PM by duriel krugaire. 22 Replies.
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jmdirt

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06/22/2013 08:09 PM
durielk, Steve Hogg talked about that in one of his blogs. He doesn't agree with you because your legs aren't hanging from a table when you ride your bike. You are being supported differently and the table is pressing on your hamies and IT band. He contends that foot position should be viewed in the position that it will be functioning in. I'm going to start slaughtering his information so I'll see if i can find the blog again.
durielk

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06/22/2013 10:47 PM
Maybe there is a better way to determine the natural position of the foot/leg. Let us know if you figure a better way.
jmdirt

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06/23/2013 10:45 AM
This isn't the one I was talking about but it is interesting/informative and talks about this issue:
http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/03/foot-correction-part-2-wedging/

Notice how he stresses the importance of arch support and measuring under load.
durielk

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06/23/2013 02:58 PM
I did not find any "stressing of the importance of an arch support and measuring under load", mostly just discussion of wedges and what is available from "corporations" and "experts".
OK, my issue with steve's analysis, is the adj to the heal. In biking the heel has no pressure on it, it is in the shoe and you could put a 1/4" piece in there (centered, on the left or right) and the only thing that would change is the heel would be sitting higher in the shoe. To change the angle of the bottom of the foot, one has to change add a wedge at the point of contact of resistance, which would force the whole bottom of the foot to rotate.
My point is that if your foot bottom sits at an angle from the rear, and that is the functional position that works for your "body", one would be wise to add a wedge to replicate this angle at the forefoot. This may or may not resolve your issues, but it would be my first suggestion on a solution.
Would a "professional fit's" address this foot/leg issue?
jmdirt

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06/23/2013 06:49 PM
I'm just offering a respected experts view. He referred to the importance of arch support several times including in the first two sentences and in the two articles he advised to read before this one.

FYI: the German ortho who advocates for mid foot cleat placement also says that sitting on a table and hanging your legs over the edge only tells you how your feet react when your legs are hanging over a table. If I remember correctly, he said the reason that became the 'easy go to' was because they were losing patients by hanging people by their neck.

EDIT: This may or may not help: http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/2011/02/foot-correction-part-1-arch-support/
Pin0Q0

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06/24/2013 10:18 AM
OK here is the scoop. After getting analyzed on my current fit, the only thing that needed adjustment was raising the hoods by 1.3 cm and that’s was just a recommendation and not necessary as I tend to spend more time in the drops riding solo.
Jmdirt you nailed it on the head thou. The guy at the LBS had the same issue with his own feet and custom made his own insoles, he also told me what you said, so he provided me with a set of insoles with adjustable insteps and toe support and said I should change position as soon as I start feeling any kind strain or pain. The toe support helps them to stay curved and not flatten out which may cause some pinching of nerves.
I rode 83 on Sat and 67 on Sunday and no more unbearable pain on the side of the foot, I just had little bit of numbness in the toes so now I have to fine tune the positions of the both the toe and instep support, and I may end up like jmdirt said seeing an Ortho if I have to. But this is definitely good news since I have isolated the cause. Thank you all for the feedback and suggestions.
jmdirt

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06/24/2013 01:48 PM
That's good news! It took several "fine tunes" to get my insoles set.
durielk

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06/24/2013 06:39 PM
Based on this experience, we can assume that "foot" issues are beyond the scope of a professional bike fit.
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