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Indoor Training season is upon us....share set-ups, entertainment options, etc.
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Cosmic Kid

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11/18/2019 02:33 PM
The only "gravel" option for us is the Ders Plaines River Trail....which has been flooded for almost the entire Fall.....otherwise I would be riding outside a lot more.As it is, we are confined to the area right around our town, between underpasses to the north and south of us.

It kinda sucks...
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Orange Crush

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11/23/2019 12:42 PM
Friday's long ride was successfully executed.

A bit of a hair raising start going downhill out of town on shiny roads in frosty conditions. The destination trail got a bit much for a gravel ride with numerous rocky stream crossings. But we didn't wreck on either occasion rode 116kms and drank four beers. Got home just as the daylight switched off again. Raining and gloomy now.
longslowdistance

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11/23/2019 01:57 PM
Great RR!
Cosmic Kid

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11/23/2019 02:22 PM
Looked like an epic ride!
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Mr.Earl

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11/25/2019 12:21 AM
Hi Guys,
I haven't posted here since Goat Roper days, but I see that as many of you are training with Zwift; I've got a question for you. I live in two different locations and have a Zwift set up at each. At one I use a Kickr Snap and roll along near the end of the pack. At the other location and use a dumb trainer (Cycleops fluid 2) and I'm a star off the front. I'm pretty sure I'm set up correctly at both locations. I go from about 1.6 w/kg with the power control to about 3 w/kg with only speed, cadence and heart rate with the dumb trainer. I'd hate to disappoint the Zwift people with my fall from physical conditioning when I start using the smart trainer again. Any explanations? - Mr.Earl
Dale

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11/25/2019 07:08 AM
No explanation but of the two, which do you think is more accurate? There are a variety of charts giving estimate w/kg. ~3w/kg is about what an average Cat 4 roadie can sustain (20+ minutes). 1.6 is below the chart for anyone racing. If you're 70+ you might be the latter, 30-60 and an active racer or reasonably fit 3 might be more in line.

FWIW I'm mid-60 mid-pack cx racer and can sustain 3.2 for an hour

PS Nice to have you back and +1 for the Goat Roper reference. Those were the days
Cosmic Kid

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11/25/2019 07:25 AM
Sounds like you are using Zpower with your dumb trainer, which is only an estimate of actual power and is known to be vary pretty wildly.

I bet if you increased the resistance on your dumb trainer, you could get the two set-ups to better mirror each other.

Alternatively, recalibrate your smart trainer and make sure it is giving you accurate numbers.

Goatroper....god help us. LOL!!! Welcome back!
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Mr.Earl

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11/25/2019 09:53 AM
Dale
The power trainer is probably more accurate. I'll be 77 in January, and can only keep up with the old guys i.e., until I bought a Bianchi Aria E- road bike. No, I don't use it with Zwift.

Cosmic
I am only using Z power with my dumb trainer. I've got the wheel resistance turned up to the suggested values, but maybe I'll give it another turn. I do like being at the head of the pack though... I don't use a separate power meter with the dumb trainer.
Orange Crush

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12/23/2019 02:32 PM
I had one more go at a tough ride this weekend. Decided to check out snow level on Burke Mountain forest road. Found trace snow at around the 700 m elevation mark after about 10 k of climbing and a few minor hike a bikes on steeper rocky sections. Spent an inordinate amount of time "assisting" a group of MTBers (everyone else was on full suspension bikes out there) who were trying to fix a flat.

Faced with another steep uphill and increasing snow, I decided to call it a day, there would have been another 3-4kms climbing to reach top. On descent I came across a friend that I hadn't seen in a year but who's brother we just happened to have over the night before, what are the odds. He also informed me about an old abandoned ski lodge up top, so I will have to return one day and complete the full climb. Also came across the MTB group who had found someone with a bigger and better pump and were about to bomb down one of the singletrack trails.

Riproaring rocky descent followed by road descent followed by river gravel trails. Mighty sore today. Maybe one more ride this year. Have a great exit to 2019 and a great entry into the new year everyone.
79pmooney

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12/24/2019 01:08 AM
Mr.Earl, was that your handle in the Goatroper days? I was new then and there were a lot more of us so I was rather overwhelmed with all the names.

Welcome back!

Ben
Cosmic Kid

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12/24/2019 05:30 PM
Weather has been nice the last few days...mid-40’s to even a few days cracking 50*. Been able to get out and enjoy the trails....a bit soupy in places, but nice to get outside.

Still doing some training inside, but looking to do the prescribed workouts outside where possible when the weather cooperates.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Dale

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12/25/2019 04:45 PM
Did 41 gravel miles the 24th with a group of close to 20. Passed through Amish country with horse and buggies all over the place. Bike was properly filthy at the end.

Tomorrow it's still in the low to mid-60's and a nice ride on the rails-to-trail path up to a town I lived for quite a few years. I'll grab lunch and ride back. Might get in 70 or so.

Not doing any training, just goofing off on the bike but I do want to get in a few more rides to beat last year milage of 3,655 I'm actually embarrassed that my annual total is so low. Stupid work
Cosmic Kid

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12/25/2019 05:27 PM
Got in a solid 2 hour trail ride today...56* on Xmas!!! Only wore arm / knee warmers.

Outstanding.
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longslowdistance

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12/25/2019 08:57 PM
Slow speed in the woods = baggy and light works well. Big change in mindset from roadie rules thing.
Orange Crush

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12/25/2019 09:17 PM
Are you saying you're one of them Klunkerz LSD?

Saw some awesome 1979 California footage on FB yesterday featuring Gary Fisher. Souped up cruiser bikes going downhill on the trails.
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