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Sram hydraulic disc recall
Last Post 12/31/2013 03:46 PM by 79 pmooney. 22 Replies.
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79pmooney
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| 12/16/2013 02:01 PM |
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SRAM is doing a good job if making it clear to me why I do not want hydraulic brakes on my bikes. I ride where stopping matters. At least with cable brakes, poor as they are, failure is rarely sudden. And it you are attentive, there is almost always adequate warning, either in the feel of the brakes (as when cables start fraying and losing strands as almost always starts happening well before they break) or visually obvious (as in canti pads slipping off the rim).
If I take a quick look at the calibers and do a firm squeeze of the levers and all is cool, I am good to go. And in the really rare case a brake does fail, there is always the other one. There is basically no condition (barring leaving the bike outside for months and having the cables seize up!) that will take out both brakes on the same ride, even cold down to -10F. (I am not willing and have not in my past tested colder.)
Now that I have written the above, I am being reminded of one thing that does not make me feel warm and fuzzy; plastic parts on brake levers. (They also regularly get trashed in routine spills.) I wonder if cold enough to get those parts to snap? Most I have seen do not use them as any more than part of the lever body and not essential to the brake operation, but still ...
And as for not paying shops to fix their screw-ups, shame SRAM and others. Dale, last 50' of assembly line? Sounds to me more like up front engineering and oversight. Like a proper material list on the drawings that gets adhered to.
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jrt1045
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| 12/16/2013 02:15 PM |
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ben
wait for Shimano, SRAM is just a marketing group that arranges for things to be manufactured |
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79pmooney
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| 12/16/2013 03:02 PM |
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jrt, will do. (My entry into dual pivots was in '07 for my first TiCycles. NOS Shimano (Ultergra? There was no indication and no box). So, I'm looking at the big switch to hydraulic when I set up a new bike, say2024. Shimanos. By that time they should be debugged and NOS one or two steps down from the top: half price.
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jrt1045
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| 12/16/2013 05:12 PM |
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| heck, by then they will be unicorn infused |
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Master50
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| 12/22/2013 01:14 PM |
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| Too much R&D is being done in the marketplace. Too much hurry to be in the market. Recalls create a stumble for consumers to move in any direction as Ben alludes to above. That said Hydraulic brakes on MTBs have long proven their reliability and than they fail in much the same way as any system does. Very rare for both brakes to crap out together in any braking system. I never had a Disk brake lock up but I have seen cantilever brakes go into spokes and that was a pretty catastrophic failure for these riders. The loss of a cable brake even on 1 wheel can happen at a place where 2 working brakes is essential, resulting in a loss of control. Thankfully this Brake recall occurred at a cyclocross race where the speed was not also a hazard. I expect that at some point I will own a disk brake road bike and I believe it will be a game changer once they are ready to replace rim brakes on road bikes. They apparently are not there yet. |
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laurentja
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| 12/31/2013 11:37 AM |
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| I dunno. IF I were excited about discs (I'm not) I would still wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation because of issues like this. I see the need for cross, urban commuting, and loaded touring. You can't convince me the typical fast roadie needs it. Would be good for the pros who go bat$4it fast down descents in the rain...if they ALL have discs. I go downhill today as fast as I did 30 years ago, when it's dry, that is. Never once have I thought my brakes weren't up for the job. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 12/31/2013 01:35 PM |
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The advantage of discs for a standard road bikes on descents is for carbon rims. Big improvement over even the best carbon brake pads.
But the aero penalty for discs on the road is pretty big and, for a performance bike, not worth the tradeoff.
If you are just running alloy rims, then I would agree that there is no significant performance advantage....unless you ride in the rain all time time (maybe). |
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79pmooney
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| 12/31/2013 03:46 PM |
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I'll wait until that magic time when Shimano discs are thoroughly debugged and are available NOS for reasonable prices. I have dual pivot calipers on both new bikes purchased that way. No indication of what model they were. They are just well made, well thought out brakes and cost under $50. Stop me as well as any big buck calipers out there and look decent. I figure the discs should be at there in perhaps 10 years.
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