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2020 "Spring" Classics thread (spoilers)
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Cosmic Kid

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09/30/2020 12:19 PM
Kicked off today w/ Fleche Wallone....Hirschi took his excellent Tour form and took the win atop the Huy. Was kinda surprised he was able to hold off some of the more pure, explosive climbers. Nice win for the kid!

In other news, Amstel Gold has been cancelled due to heightened COVID restrictions in Holland.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 12:51 PM
Posted By Cosmic Kid on 09/30/2020 12:19 PM
In other news, Amstel Gold has been cancelled due to heightened COVID restrictions in Holland.


The Netherlands. Amstel is not actually held in Holland.
79pmooney

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09/30/2020 01:07 PM
And Anna Van der Breggen won her 5th straight! TV coverage finally. She's on fire! Dutch, Euro and Worlds TT champ. Giro Rosa. Worlds Road.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/anna-van-der-breggen-made-fleche-wallonne-history-and-the-world-watched-on-live-tv/

Her competitors should insist she has to wear all the jerseys as a handicap, but it's cooking down so even might not slow her.
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 01:42 PM
That was 6th win Ben. With it she surpassed that other goddess of the Mur, Vos, until today both had 5 wins.

This one was close and hard for her. Lots of good female riders to give her a good run for her money, and unlike the worlds the deck isn't stacked by one team.
Cosmic Kid

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09/30/2020 02:25 PM
The Netherlands. Amstel is not actually held in Holland.


Tomato, tomahto.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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09/30/2020 02:52 PM
OC, had to google Holland vs Netherlands. Thanks. But in sports, the line gets pretty fuzzy. You root for the Netherlands soccer team saying "rah, Hollland" because "rah, Netherlands" just doesn't have the ring. We're talking sports here, so I'm not sure CK is so entirely wrong. (It's COVID so CK is sitting here behind a screen and must type out Netherlands, but without COVID he might just have flown to the Netherlands and be roadside rooting on Jumbo-Visma.
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 03:36 PM
Haha, we certainly don't make it easy on you guys and sometimes even confuse ourselves. Aside from the Holland versus Netherlands thing, we are neither Hollanders or Netherlanders, no we are Dutch. No, not Danish, that's a pastry.

Anyway, CK could stand along a road in the Holland country side for a long time and while he might see a lot of cyclists, the Amstel Gold race would be happening somewhere on the other side of the country, where the pastries and beer are also better. So its in his own interest to learn the difference. Unless he likes pickled herring, in that case he's in the right spot (warning, pickled herring may cause gout, trust me).
Cosmic Kid

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09/30/2020 03:46 PM
Pickled herring is gross....
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 03:56 PM
Posted By Cosmic Kid on 09/30/2020 03:46 PM
Pickled herring is gross....


So you're better off staying a mile away from Holland then. All they have is pickled herring, tullips and Heineken. In Limburg, land of Amstel Gold (and also where I am from) we have good beer, coffee and "vlaai" (look it up).
Cosmic Kid

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09/30/2020 08:16 PM
Heineken is also gross.....but so is Amstel.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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09/30/2020 08:33 PM
This forumite is truly glad to report that for several years now here in the US we now enjoy a zillion excellent local microbrew options. The watery stuff sold by the large breweries has a place, but the craft brews are making inroads, and they top most imports by miles. As for the highly advertised (to us) imports, it's just the swill they export. I've held in my heart that what they serve in country is not the skunk piss they export for sale here, having faith in the palate of Euros as I do.
When this pandemic thing is over in a year or two or three, I will be in a football stadium or a nearby Pub in England or the continent, with a local brew, and will revise. With I hope the 46th US president who will not make me pretend to be Canadian to avoid embarrassment or a beat down .


79pmooney

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09/30/2020 09:11 PM
lsd, I have had the priviledge of living in Seattle in the neighborhood Red Hook started in the '80s and '90s, then Portland since. But long before that, my senior year at Michigan, one of my roomies was from Detroit and had a car. We'd pool money and he'd go to Windsor and buy up. 1974 we were drinking ales, stouts, porters, Guinness Stout brewed in Ontario ... Plus the local brew was Stroh's. No, not a great beer, but it was different and real, not a watered down sell-out. (I thought the Guinness brewed in Ontario wasn't the "real deal" until I went to Ireland and learned that beer could not pass county lines and that each county had its own Guinness and they were not the same! Ontario's was well within the scope of what I drank there.)

At the same time, I"d go home and drink Carling Black Label with my Dad or if I was lucky, time it when he had Ballintine India Pale Ale. (No, far, far from the high quality craft of today's good IPAs but - an ale with enough oomph to get it to keep and little enough fluff that it probably would survive the warm trip in the ship's hold around Africa to India. (I don't like to think of the "culture" that the craft micros would acquire on that journey.)

Sadly, these days I drink almost zero alcohol. Maybe a beer since my family's birthdays in April. So this is just reminiscing.  And edit:  Heineken.  The classmate of my dad I used to sail with always had Heiniken on board.  Enngh.  And sometimes Carlsblad (sp) Elephant.  Now that I liked!
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 09:15 PM
CK - that is because somewhat confusingly Amstel is not actually from where race is held but from Amsterdam (yes Holland!) and is owned by Heineken. Yes the race is sponsored by a sub par beer from outside the region but it’s a longstanding sponsor so I guess we’ll take it.

LSD - microbrew date’s back to Middle Ages those monks knew what they were doing. There’s an embarrassment of riches in choice where I grew up. Don’t know about further east in Europe though where they seem to like Pilsner or further south where they seem to know more about wine.

And FYI right now BC is not only a gravel Mecca but probably also best microbrew scene in North America. Got friends and ride partners in business and did a major restock at their place last weekend.
longslowdistance

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09/30/2020 09:34 PM
I would like to counter your local microbrew center of the universe claim with modest Richmond. VA, USA. We can hold our own with dozens of local outlets.
This is despite the US's dysfunctional pandemic response. Good news is our VA Governor has mostly got it right. As for me, I'm presently sipping a local microbrew at home , but very much looking forward to more social options when appropriate. When I don't know. Ideally late next summer, but the never vaxxers and other skeptics fans may screw this up. A very wise person recently observed that Covid will be with us for three years. At this point I agree.
Orange Crush

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09/30/2020 10:10 PM
You are mighty optimistic with one year. I will say four years and at least half a dozen waves.

Once that is done perhaps there will be an opportunity to sample the VA beer scene.

In meantime we will have to look for alternative ways to hold the clubs unauthorized brew fondo (ie how many breweries can we hit in a metric century). This year we canned it.
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