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Buh-bye, Johan
Last Post 11/25/2013 01:14 PM by Orange Crush. 8 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid


11/23/2013 09:47 PM
Don't let the door hit ya in the ass......
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!


11/23/2013 10:28 PM
Here fixed it for 'ya's-pretty-much-done-with-me.aspx


11/24/2013 11:36 AM
Yeah Dale. How many of us read that and thought the exact same thing.


11/24/2013 05:24 PM
he's taking his pelota and going home.
Yo Mike


11/25/2013 05:52 AM
This little piggie went home....... so check off one more item on the 'house cleaning' list...


11/25/2013 10:52 AM
Serious question, I'd like to hear your opinions/speculation:
Johan goes and in the process some scores get settled, if only partially.

But what about doping in cycling?
Are significantly fewer riders doping?
Are significantly fewer successful riders doping?

My guess, at least for the successful riders: just prevalent, but much less intense.
Cosmic Kid


11/25/2013 11:02 AM
I think it is fair to say that there are fewer successful riders doping today than even 3 years ago.....the best "evidence" i can give to support this position would be Ryder's win in the 2012 Giro. Regardless of his past, there has been zero evidence to suggest that Vaughter's teams have not adhered to ethos he established when he founded the team. (Let's try not to let this devolve into a discussion on Vaughter's or Ryder "hypocrisy" or past lives....just looking at how things exist now).

Sure, Froome and Wiggo's performances raised a few eyebrows (rightly so?), but I do think the sport is cleaner now than it has been a in a very long time. Doesn't mean it is "clean" or can't be improved further, but it is "better".

Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!


11/25/2013 12:24 PM
Oh come on, CK! How can you say that?! Where do you possibly get these ideas? That's just insane? Really?! Are you f#cking kidding me? What have you been smoking? It's preposterous! How irresponsible of you to even post a comment like that! Of all the things to write! Well I never!


What was the question?
Orange Crush


11/25/2013 01:14 PM
He was no longer at the cutting edge, the sport has moved on...cough, cough!
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