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Orange Crush

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01/04/2021 08:17 PM
BTW a friend from New Mexico posted yesterday how well their system seemed to be running. So you may be seeing big differences between states much like here in Canada Covid trajectories are quite different between provinces.
longslowdistance

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01/05/2021 10:53 AM
Israel is doing well, too. Compact country with an advanced health care system must help.
Orange Crush

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01/05/2021 11:55 AM
Yes, a compact country is very helpful. Their distribution chain is very short.

Of course their metric of success excludes millions of Palestinians in occupied territories. So there is that.

Ironically here in Canada our biggest challenge is distribution to northern territories where traditionally there isn't much need for top-end refrigeration capacity. But good to see that Indigenous elders are being identified as a top priority for vaccination.
Cosmic Kid

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01/05/2021 02:38 PM
Compact country with an advanced health care system must help.


And a national health system, not a system based on individual state response plans.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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01/05/2021 08:13 PM
Yes I gave that same gripe in Canada CK
79pmooney

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01/05/2021 11:05 PM
I saw this earlier.

"The situation is perhaps most dire in Los Angeles County, where it’s estimated that one person becomes infected every six seconds, and one person dies every 10 minutes. The latest crisis has stretched the health care system there so thin that incoming patients at one hospital were told to wait in an outdoor tent. The region is running out of oxygen, and ambulance crews have been instructed to stop transporting people who have little chance of survival."

NY Times Daily Briefing, 1/5/21

So LA ambulance drivers are being asked to decide who has a shot at life. I was reading similar stuff in Italy back in March.
Cosmic Kid

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01/06/2021 09:28 AM
A damn good night last night.....

Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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01/06/2021 09:37 AM
A key differences between provinces that have relatively good per capita vaccination rates and those that do not appears to be decision to distribute directly to long term care homes. When vaccines are distributed to hospitals inability of elderly to go to hospitals becomes a limiting factor. The devil is in details.

Also looks like Israel’s success is attributable to using a one dose strategy which goes against guidance but that isn’t necessarily bad
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-slow-vaccine-rollout-covid-19-1.5862358
Orange Crush

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01/06/2021 09:44 AM

Posted By Cosmic Kid on 01/06/2021 09:28 AM
A damn good night last night.....




Going by various posts in my social media this must be because you beat Canada in youth hockey worlds.
Cosmic Kid

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01/06/2021 10:18 AM
Going by various posts in my social media this must be because you beat Canada in youth hockey worlds.


Well, yeah....what else happened last night? LOL!!!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Cosmic Kid

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01/06/2021 02:48 PM
A damn good night last night.....


Well that good feeling didn't last long.....what the hell has happened to us?

I never want to hear anyone in the GOP talk about Law & Order.
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Orange Crush

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01/06/2021 03:29 PM

Posted By Cosmic Kid on 01/06/2021 02:48 PM
A damn good night last night.....


Well that good feeling didn't last long.....what the hell has happened to us?



You may not agree with it, but this is a good read. The problem runs long and deep

https://www.dailyposter.com/p/the-infrastructure-of-impunity
longslowdistance

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01/06/2021 08:42 PM
Embarrassed. To be an American. More than I've ever been. We can do better.
79pmooney

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01/06/2021 09:45 PM
lsd, I was part of the huge crowd in the nearby mall two weeks shy of 28 years ago. The protest of Nixon's inauguration. Far, far more people. When I was watching this build this afternoon (while waiting for the dyes I drank for a CT scan to be absorbed) I kept thinking of the right to peaceful protest and my participation and the total contrast to what I was now seeing. I was part of a crowd that wouldn't fit in my university's football stadium and I saw zero violence. Read about maybe a couple of arrests. And I guarantee you that the police were NOT siding with the demonstrators then. What I saw today? I'm wondering.

This afternoon, where were the police? Yes there is right to protest, but the Capital police have as their #1 duty to protect the carrying out of government as spelled out by the constitution. And that crowd was fully expected. Maybe not to march from Trump's doorstep to the Capital at his request but still - everyone knew what the crowd would look like, that members would be armed and that they were ready to make it ugly.

Now I also saw positives. The National Guard; called in by the VP, the heads of both parties of both Houses and the Mayor of the city (and not the POTUS!). Senators who were leaders of the count protest saying the show should go on and they would respect the results, even back them. And media talk of another impeachment. Put Pence in charge. I have no love for him but I got to see him step up and do what is right today. Putting him in Office to smooth the transition to Biden as much as possible. (I just saw the Arizona went through 93-6!) Now I think there are 5 more potentially challenges. 2 hours to debate each. If those 6 want to filibuster, it is now 10:00 DC time; this could go 'till 6 am tomorrow plus the other 40 or so states.
79pmooney

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01/07/2021 02:18 PM
Did you see that one of the brand new House Republicans tested positive last night? (I tried to go back through the news I've read this morning to get his name but there was too much!) Watching the House challenges last night, I could not help but notice almost every Republican speaking wore a very poor fitting mask. The Democrats were like their constituency, all over the place. Some just as bad, some with first class masks and everything in between. Also, the panic footage of the afternoon, the walk down that long, narrow hall back from sequestering and the behavior after the conclusion - social distancing?

I read that more than 100 congress people have now been positive. That's >19%. This weekend we will see a lot more. Maybe that will serve as a wake-up call. (And if we lose a Congress person to COVID, infected last night - a lot of this is on the Capital police whose mission it is to protect the process of democracy.)
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