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Vaccines - the graphenes of the COVID world
Last Post 01/21/2022 10:40 PM by 79 pmooney. 184 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid

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03/17/2021 09:38 AM
Yeah, I saw that last week....despite the fact that we are riding around the most active volcano in Europe (Hekla), all the seismic activity is in the Reykjavik peninsula, over 100 miles away.

But if there are eruptions leading up to the race, it could prevent planes form arriving obviously.

We'll see....I'm sitting at 50 / 50 right now, where I had been 30 / 70.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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03/17/2021 04:34 PM
CK, you're wavering on earthquakes and volcanoes? Come on. This is mountain biking. All that stuff does is raise the level of difficulty a notch or two. More merit badges you get to bring home. How many of your friends have ridden a magnitude 7 without dabbing? Bunny hopped a lava flow?
Dale

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03/17/2021 07:00 PM
Norway is locked down. Sure hope it opens up for our tandem cruise in July. Booked one of the Santana Adventure trips. Smallish new ship, 100 couples, around the coast of Norge and hopping off at the various ports to ride 30- 40- 50 mile routes.
longslowdistance

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03/17/2021 07:47 PM
Just a thought about ski areas making money: lots of sold lift tickets and rental equipment is good, but much of the profit comes from the bars, restaurants and lodging. A local place I frequent had a banner year of folks on the slopes, but all their restaurants were shut down and they will take a large loss this year.
As for the EU halting the AZ vaccine, it's just lunacy. The downside of this reaction to extremely flimsy data is huge. If the US shut down Moderna and Pfizer because one in a million got anaphalaxis, the message would be clear: DANGER. The Euros, who usually have their sh*t together on public health, screwed the pooch on this one.



smokey52

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03/17/2021 08:35 PM
My wife and I got our 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine this afternoon. In two weeks, we can visit the daughter and the grandkids without reservation or masks. We were happy to get the Pfizer version for a couple of reasons: (1) The interval between 1st & 2nd is three weeks instead of four, and (2) I worked for Pfizer after Lederle/Wyeth was acquired. I know some of the people involved in the vaccine development, and I respect them.
LSD - I agree, the EU resistance to the AZ vaccine on the basis of blood clots which occur at a rate comparable with non-vaccinated people doesn't make sense. However, AZ-Oxford did screw up their clinical trials and changed manufacturing sources between late-phase clinical product and commercial product without adequate bridging studies. The blood clot may just be an excuse.
Orange Crush

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03/17/2021 08:58 PM
Whistler restaurants and hotels stayed open w distancing and other measures. They’d have lost business but it’s manageable.

CK Would be interesting if you ended up being there during volcanic activity. Big Island 2016 (I think) was massively interesting. If tires heat up the water crossings will cool things down again.

I’ve kept my ride plans local. Gold Bridge and Fernie should be good. The main risk factor is both are solidly grizzly country.
Cosmic Kid

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03/21/2021 11:26 PM
Oh, there is volcanic activity now!!!

https://twitter.com/anthonyquintano/status/1373787472493170695?s=12
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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03/22/2021 06:10 AM
AZ US trial results are just in and are excellent. Good news.
79pmooney

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03/22/2021 12:52 PM
I went on-line again to try to sign up. (Keep getting told I qualify but there are no appointments available.) Appointments were there! Grabbed the one I wanted and hit NEXT. The following button was to schedule the 2nd appointment. Hit it and got confronted with the first appointment again. Huh? Picked another choice. Got told there was an error. Called the phone number (the pharmacy # at the supermarket doing the COVID shots). Message said that pharmacy wouldn't take COVID calls.

Showed up a half hour before the pharmacy opened. First (and only) customer. Said what happened. The pharmacist pulled up the COVID schedule, said she didn't see my name; that glitches happen and that she would call me in a day or so when an unused shot appeared. She seemed together and organized, so ... I don't know yet when my shot is coming but it might be soon!
Cosmic Kid

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03/22/2021 05:10 PM
Good luck, Ben!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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03/22/2021 07:51 PM
CK, got the call back soon after I posted above. Scheduled for Friday! Yeah! So second probably late April. Two weeks after that, early May - I can finally do all the stuff I haven't wanted to do, sight on seen, online. Yes, I still cannot be stupid, but an oops! - my housemate doesn't die and I don't see a hell followed by (perhaps) long term consequences.

I've been thinking a lot recently about the concept of having only so many "get out of jail free" cards. I've used three already. (The big one, my head injury. Not wearing that Bell and it would have been very different. 2 years later I put full line voltage through my heart. Sweaty hand to sweaty hand. I was on a step ladder. Fully aware my body was paralyzed and my heart and breathing stopped. Managed to summon everything I had and "kick" just enough to push back beyond vertical. Fell for what felt like 10 minutes and landed flat on my back. The slam started my heart. Third time, a right turning truck. I was looking at the truck side, knowing that this was what my best friend's dad told us when we were 11, that if we were ever to see that, we were going to die. The truck straightened out when the passenger screamed. I never heard it. The was no sound that final moment. The driver never saw me.)

So I've been thinking I really need to stay on my toes until I get those shots and they have taken effect. It's been getting old. I have one hour and a half or so each week of seeing people. The outdoor Saturday morning farmer's market. (Been going there 15 years.) That's fun. And we don't yet have great weather and huge crowds so I get to actually talk to these vendors who have become friends. I also go out once a week and do other shopping, but early and try to spend as little time indoors.

I keep hearing how things are getting better but the numbers are hanging steady at the peak of last summer. With all the re-openings, I don't expect them to come down. So another month and a half of survival mode. But at least I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Orange Crush

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03/22/2021 08:16 PM
The numbers are crawling up (increased variants at play) but (severe) consequences are going down, at least here. That’s vaccination at work.

My shot at first shot got accelerated to May most likely now that everything is in place. Second shot sometime within 4 months later, following the Israel approach. Seems to work there. This seems to give best outcome at population level even though at individual level a closer timeline may be preferable.
Orange Crush

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03/22/2021 08:18 PM
That volcano is turning out to be disappointing.
Cosmic Kid

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03/23/2021 02:54 PM
CK, got the call back soon after I posted above. Scheduled for Friday!


Great news!!!

The numbers are crawling up (increased variants at play) but (severe) consequences are going down, at least here. That’s vaccination at work.


Spot on.

That volcano is turning out to be disappointing.


As long as Hekla (where the race is) doesn't start rumbling, I'm OK with whatever volcanic activity takes place!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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03/25/2021 08:36 PM
Chewing the fat here a bit. OC thanks for the link about infections among the vaccinated in an old folks home in BC. Some similar and more widely publicized events occurred in Quebec City and Montreal. I dug into it a bit and found that a common theme was that the positive tests mainly occurred less than two weeks after vaccination, i.e. before maximal immunity. The point being that the vaccines likely work even better in the elderly than these reports might suggest, if given enough time. More good news.
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