Orange Crush
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| 04/10/2021 09:58 PM |
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| Yes for Pfizer and Moderna it’s the second dose that does it. For AZ it’s the first. |
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79pmooney
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| 04/10/2021 10:50 PM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 04/10/2021 09:58 PM
Yes for Pfizer and Moderna it’s the second dose that does it. For AZ it’s the first.
I took a nap the next day feeling tired. About an hour later felt like I had the flu. Every position I tried to lie hurt. Finally got up because it hurt to much to nap. Took an aspirin and started feeling better. Couple of hours later I was fine. That was the Pfizer first. |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/12/2021 05:02 PM |
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Haha - if that was Pfitzer dose one, that is promising for dose two Ben. But I am sure that results may vary.
I woke middle of night yesterday with muscle and joint soreness, also had a hard time finding a comfortable position of lie down. A bit tired Sunday morning and couldn't go through usual stretching regime. Put some music on and relaxed. Then towards mid-day the sun came out, took some pain killers and got on bike. Rode 4.5 hours and been feeling perfect ever since. |
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longslowdistance
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| 04/12/2021 06:13 PM |
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| IIRC, try to hold off on the NSAIDS like aspirin, at least for a day, as this can dampen the desired immune response. Tylenol is supposed to be OK. IIRC. |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/12/2021 06:39 PM |
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| Ah interesting. I just read the part about exercise right after is fine "but you may not feel like it". It didn't mention painkillers but at any rate its Tylenol. |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/12/2021 07:41 PM |
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Reads like the concern is largely hypothetical from older studies and it is mostly about taking painkillers before the injection which may dampen the body’s initial response. Well that didn’t happen lol.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/should-you-take-pain-relievers-after-covid-19-vaccine |
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Dale
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| 04/12/2021 09:25 PM |
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| Being on anti-coagulants Mose otc pain relievers interfere with the drug I take. It's been almost three years since I've taken Advil or Tylenol, and close to ten since I've taken aspirin. I sure wanted something after #2, miserable due to the vaccine and overworking myself with some manual labor projects. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/12/2021 09:42 PM |
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Did your docs say no Tylenol, Dale? I was told only Tylenol, just no nsaids.
Going for $4it #2 (Moderna) tomorrow. Heard you should pre-dose with a couple of Tylenol.
Fingers crossed....luckily it is a rest / recovery week for me. |
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Dale
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| 04/13/2021 08:29 AM |
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My INR is generally very stable but one day it was in the 5's (IIRR) and I did some digging and found some people get a heightened INR when warfarin is taken in conjunction with Tylenol. Generally it's with a higher dose over several days but with me it happens with a lower dosages and within a day which was the case when it spiked. That was the only deviation from my normal diet and activity levels so I just avoid that as well as NSAIDS.
I've got some leftover Tramadol if I need something to take the edge off the pain.
My wife is a CRNA so she has access to some good drugs is that doesn't work 
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/19/E506 |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/13/2021 08:49 AM |
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Gotcha....
Just took my pre-shot Tylenol....shot is in 90 min. Can't freakin' wait!! |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/13/2021 09:14 AM |
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FDA halts J&J shots at federal sites and recommends complete halt for now due to risk of blood clots.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/health/johnson-vaccine-pause-cdc-fda/index.html
6 cases of clots out of 6.8 million doses......if offered the J&J vaccine today, I'd take it without hesitation. 99.9999% chance you won't develop a clot.
If I told you I would sell you a lottery ticket with a 99.9999% chance of winning, would you buy it? Of course you would.
The FDA is doing the right thing with the pause so they can get a precaution out there, but this should not make anyone question the J&J vaccine. But of course the anti-vaxxers will have a field day with this. |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/13/2021 09:34 AM |
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The lottery ticket is probably not a good parallel. Zero chance of negative side effects other than wasting a few bucks in that ticket.
I’d compare it to things we do mindlessly but which carry a very very tiny lethal risk, like stepping in a plane or car. 99.99999% (probably a little less than that) you will end up at destination safely. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/13/2021 12:11 PM |
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Well, the point is the overwhelming odds of a positive outcome, not the severity of a potential negative consequence. You can choose whatever analogy you want, but if you are looking at a 99.9999% chance of a positive outcome, you'd take it.
Shot #2 now done....full vaxxed! |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/13/2021 12:23 PM |
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But the fear and apprehension comes from that puny negative part. That is the part that needs to be put in context. The thing about positive part of vaccine is that if it works, you'll never know.
Congrats on the second dose. |
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smokey52
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| 04/13/2021 02:21 PM |
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From the news reports I heard, all 6 were women in their 50s. The pause in administration is to have time to evaluate the cases to determine if there are any commonalities that could identify a heightened risk for clotting as part of the informed consent to accepting the vaccine. It's hard to do meaningful statistics with n=6.
I just took my son (37) in for his first Pfizer vaccination this morning. |
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