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longslowdistance

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06/05/2023 08:06 PM
JA back in form? Quality win today. https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/criterium-du-dauphine-2023/stage-2/results/
Orange Crush

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06/06/2023 09:45 AM
Yes, good to see . He had announced it a few days earlier, feeling good for first time in years.

Pogs route to Tour seems very short. Just got back to riding outside. Wrist still in a brace.

Will also be good to see likes of Van Aert and VDP, Girmay back in action. And he’ll, the Worlds is already two weeks after Tour in early August?!
Orange Crush

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06/08/2023 09:25 AM
Fish guy!!
Dale

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06/08/2023 12:44 PM
He looked solid today for sure.
79pmooney

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06/09/2023 01:17 PM
Anybody know what kind of fish Vingegaard is? Danish so I'm thinking salt water but he thrives at altitude. Salmon maybe? Atlantic salmon. (The real or false salmon depending who you talked to. When I moved to Seattle I was told quite firmly by several that the Pacific salmon were members of the scientific family of salmon; that the Atlantic salmon was a member of the trout family. I've sailed the Canadian Maritimes and Ireland/Scottish Hebrides of the Atlantic. I've had some fun telling fishermen of many generations that what they were catching wasn't a salmon! (The word salmon has roots back to ancient near-east Asia history and spread to Europe, the Scandinavians and the British Isles long ago.) I step back quickly after saying that and tell them, laughing, that if they go to Seattle, that is what they will be told.

So, if Vingegaard is a salmon, in the Pacific NW, he is just a trout.
Orange Crush

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06/09/2023 02:49 PM
"just a trout"?

Taste wise a trout is superior to salmon in my mind, at least when cooked/BBQd.
But then again there's smoked salmon and fresh salmon in sushi so I am not sure.

But his first name is Jonas so maybe he's the dude who got swallowed by a whale.

Anyway Ben, if you can tell from photo in this link which fish Vingegaard is packing then the question is settled: https://velo.outsideonline.com/events/tour-de-france/before-hitting-the-tour-de-france-podium-jonas-vingegaard-worked-in-a-fish-packing-plant/


Haha, actually here it is (cod, saithe and plaice whatever those last two are). https://www.visit-nordvestkysten.com/northwest-coast/whatson/hanstholm-fish-auction-gdk601437
longslowdistance

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06/09/2023 05:46 PM
Love this Jonas inspired tangent. Salmon lover here. I live on the east coast, so mostly farmed stuff is available, and frankly the wild caught that makes it here is not that tasty. I see adds for upscale wild caught salmon etc from Alaska shipped direct. Yes, expensive. Has anyone tried this or know if it's really better?
longslowdistance

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06/09/2023 06:08 PM
Cod is tasty too in its mild way. Nerdy tangent alert: Cod's history in feeding the western world was incredibly important, and fascinating (well to me, at least). Newfoundland salt cod was one of the major major sources of protein for Europe and the Caribbean for centuries. That created a fascinating coastal based economy, with extensive poverty and abuse of the actual workers, (familiar?) England beat France time and time again in world wars back in the day. When they won the Seven Years War, aka "French and Indian war" for us 'mericans, aka "War of Conquest" to French Canadians (which sounds a lot like time US southerners calling the US Civil war the "war of northern aggression") they took over almost all of New France. But they let France keep a solid foothold in the cod rich grand banks - St. Pierre and Miquelon, a few small islands off the south coast of Newfoundland. Even your rival has to eat. More recently, the cod fishery collapsed and there are other many other protein options now, but this little cluster of islands is still fully part of France. Not to mention its major role in booze smuggling during US prohibition (that's another story!)
79pmooney

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06/09/2023 09:43 PM
I had fish and chips of the last of the Grand Banks cod in St Johns, Newfoundland 1986 before we sailed for Ireland. When we sailed the Labrador coast early '90s, the fishery was closed and the Labrador coastal villages shut down. We'd pull into a harbor, anchor and pull out the binocs looking for houses without boarded up window. Maybe one or two.

Fun fact - the Basques (sorta of Spain) were fishing Grand Banks cod before any other Europeans knew anything about it. In high secrecy about the origins, they became rich selling salt cod to a Europe that the Norwegian and Icelandic fisheries could no longer support. Recently remains of the their Newfoundland coastal summer outposts and fish drying have been studied and they are getting recognition of being very early North American presences. (1525 or so.)
longslowdistance

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06/10/2023 01:40 AM
Largest whaling port was Basques in Labrador for quite a while before Nantucket
Dale

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06/11/2023 09:39 AM
Whale... nasty, a combination flavor of beef and oily fish. Has it a couple of times in Norway back in the '70's
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