Cosmic Kid
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| 07/20/2022 11:33 AM |
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IN hindsight, I think Pog's major error was answering every attack from JV on Stage 11....he had time in hand over Roglic and should have given him some rope and let him run a bit. Let him burn some matches while Pog keeps tempo and rides him in check.
By answering every attack immediately, he left himself open to the inevitable coutner-attack, which left him vulnerable on the final climb. Giving Rog some room to run would have negated the number of counter-attacks.
I'd say Pog and Fish Boy are pretty evenly matched right now....the major difference being the energy Pog spent on Stage 11. |
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79pmooney
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| 07/20/2022 11:36 AM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 07/20/2022 10:48 AM
Jakobsen finished with 16 seconds to spare. He's scraped the bottom of barrel many times over already and is a complete wreck. His team mates had to leave him in end because it got too risky with time cut to loose multiple riders. Imagine how much time he spent on that final ramp.
I doubt he'll survive tomorrow simply because of what he did today. Hope I'm wrong. But this is one of the races within the race that make the Tour the greatest bike race (and perhaps sporting event). Riders have been going that deep just to finish forever. Q-C has not seen a lot of podium or front row time but Morkov's solo, very long ride just to finish (well outside the time cut) showed earlier that the Q-C riders take this race seriously. Then there's the rider (I forget who) that likewise rode alone forever and missed the cut yesterday(?).
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/20/2022 11:47 AM |
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Then there's the rider (I forget who) that likewise rode alone forever and missed the cut yesterday
marc Soler for UAE....he was vomiting on the bike.
If you had told every team before the race that they could have two stage wins and a stint in yellow as their results, everyone would take it. yet somehow this Tour feels like a bit of a dud for QS....receny bias I guess since those two stage wins were so long ago.
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Orange Crush
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| 07/20/2022 02:11 PM |
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Agreed on Pog's key stage 11 mistake. Rog getting up ahead was in fact JV's strategy for that day. That's why their tactics turned a bit messy once Pog and fish guy were up ahead instead, they failed to adapt on the fly. But the end result worked for them.
Pog and fish guy were pretty even matched today but I wonder if tomorrow with longer climbs may allow Jonas to go on attack and widen the buffer.
Meanwhile van Aert mathematically won green. Just needs to finish.
The biggest dud this Tour is Polka Dot. I mean Gerschke, come on?! |
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Dale
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| 07/20/2022 08:40 PM |
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| Outside of this group who would ever guess who we were talking about when we say “fish guy”? |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/20/2022 09:19 PM |
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Dale, there are alternatives on offer but one has yet to stick. Until then it’s fish guy haha. Good for a few chuckles…” In this respect we have a bit of a Vingegaard problem as his public persona has about as much sparkle as a building society manager reading you your overdraft terms and conditions. But no less we shall try. ”
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racing/we-need-to-talk-about-jonas-danish-dynamite-vingegaard |
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mondonico
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| 07/20/2022 09:26 PM |
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| Fish guy. It took me a day or so to remember myself. |
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79pmooney
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| 07/21/2022 09:54 AM |
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So, the TDF could be won by TFG.
Speaking of whom - stopping for Pogacar after Pog crashes while in mano-au-mano combat: pretty classy. His acting career may not take off, but he'll win some good publicity with that. |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/21/2022 09:56 AM |
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Yes good moment.
Also great recovery from brake lock just earlier.
Pog seemed to indicate to team car that he just wants to win stage. |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/21/2022 10:26 AM |
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| Boom. It’s done. BTW another reason to go for fish guy is cause before we had the Chicken so this retains the animal theme. |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/21/2022 11:21 AM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 07/20/2022 02:11 PM
Pog and fish guy were pretty even matched today but I wonder if tomorrow with longer climbs may allow Jonas to go on attack and widen the buffer. <
Ahem, cough, cough. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/21/2022 12:26 PM |
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stopping for Pogacar after Pog crashes while in mano-au-mano combat: pretty classy.
That was when I knew it was in the bag....waiting showed he was supremely confident heading into the final climb. |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/21/2022 12:40 PM |
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Posted By 79 pmooney on 07/20/2022 11:36 AM
Posted By Orange Crush on 07/20/2022 10:48 AM
Jakobsen finished with 16 seconds to spare. He's scraped the bottom of barrel many times over already and is a complete wreck. His team mates had to leave him in end because it got too risky with time cut to loose multiple riders. Imagine how much time he spent on that final ramp.
I doubt he'll survive tomorrow simply because of what he did today. Hope I'm wrong.
Jakobsen survived. The entire QS team finished together with him. In a way today being longer was easier as it allows for a wider time margin to winner. |
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Dale
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| 07/21/2022 04:39 PM |
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Nice that we didn't have another Alberto Contador/ Andy Schleck anger-in-my-stomach episode.
"I'll wait up so I can drop you like a man at the top."
Right from the gun that was an impressive ride by WvA. That was a beastly pull going up that climb. When he blew it looked like he was going to topple over, and then go on to get 3rd. Dayum! |
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79pmooney
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| 07/21/2022 05:45 PM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 07/21/2022 12:40 PM
Posted By 79 pmooney on 07/20/2022 11:36 AM
Posted By Orange Crush on 07/20/2022 10:48 AM
Jakobsen finished with 16 seconds to spare. He's scraped the bottom of barrel many times over already and is a complete wreck. His team mates had to leave him in end because it got too risky with time cut to loose multiple riders. Imagine how much time he spent on that final ramp.
I doubt he'll survive tomorrow simply because of what he did today. Hope I'm wrong.
Jakobsen survived. The entire QS team finished together with him. In a way today being longer was easier as it allows for a wider time margin to winner.
Good. I'm rooting for him winning in Paris - for the team and for Morkov.
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