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Oldfart

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03/19/2014 01:37 PM
Put a pair of Clement 28 LGG tires on last night. With tubes because I have to, but they are a much better ride than then the 23 tubeless. The roads are really rough on my commute due to road works some of which are actually cycling infrastructure which is somewhat ironic I suppose but I had to do something. They are cheap tires, 60 tpi so once they are done I may hunt out other similarly wide tires. I hear that Michelin Pro Race 25's are about 28 wide mounted? Hutchinson has the Intensive tubeless but I saw one mounted and it looked the same width as a 23. Hutchinson also has a Secteur 28 which is their tubeless ready cobble tire. Only available to pros before last season. Like hen's teeth up here. Plus it requires sealant which I avoid if I can on Dura Ace non anodized rims.
79pmooney

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03/19/2014 03:05 PM
Been using Panasonic Paselas for a few years. Rode my winter fixie Monday and got reminded what a nice ride that bike is and how nice rolling those medium price, reliable tires are. ($35 in Portland, typ.)

Those tires aren't super at anything, nor do they have areas where they are bad. Rubber isn't "grippy" but not bad. They are good about not picking up debris but not Armidillos by a long shot. Beards are good, have been a good fit on every rim I have put them on. (And yes, they are beaded, not folding.) Sidewalls don't appear to be anything special but the tires roll surprisingly well.

I use 28s on that bike and my geared workhorse. The Mooney gets the 32s which area blast to ridel Jessica J gets 25s when I am not riding the Open Paves.

Agree fully that bigger tires are better on rough roads! Now, for a given width, tubulars give a better rough road ride by quite a lot. 23s would be suitable for very rough pavement, 25s off road easily. (I believe the time honored and haloed Clement Del Mondos were about 25c, the Paris Roubaixes about 23c and the Criterium Setas about 21c. (These tires were handsewed in the days before the written word and the Arabic numbering system, so those numbers are from observation. The sources passed on eons ago.)

Ben
longslowdistance

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03/19/2014 03:58 PM
I've been a bit disappointed in 28 offerings too. Please give us a long term report on the Clements.
I really liked the ride and rolling resistance of the Grand Bois Cypress 32mm, and fairly light too, but it's thin and more flat prone.
Oldfart

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03/19/2014 04:51 PM
Apparently they also make them in 120 tpi. At least I think they do. Lots of tires that size to choose from but most have wire beads and heavy rubber carcasses made from hard rubber roughly akin to the plastic soles on cheap kids dress shoes and the ride is like 29 layers of duct tape on a rim instead of a tire. I think lots of riders would like a wider race type tire with an anti puncture casing but the weight and suppleness of a great race clincher. I think the demand is starting to come now. More pros ride 25 tubbies. They are riding 28 or so for cobbles now too.
Hoshie

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03/19/2014 05:00 PM
I have the Michie Pro Race 25s and also heard they are almost 28 but never measured them. On a wide rim, and lower pressure, they do take up some of the road jitter for sure on rough roads.

I find the Conti GP 25s to be a great tire, but it's more of a performance tire than Paselas, etc.

I'd stick with your Clements and call it done based on your description above.

Slowtwitch has a nice round up of wider tires for training by the way, but it is stilted to racier tires rather than some of the touring or commute tires.

It's an interesting read...

J
longslowdistance

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03/19/2014 07:57 PM
Going on a fatter tire tangent, I'm liking 32mm Michelin pilots better than the pasellas and PT fancy pasellas I've used previously. Great for rough stuff but much porkier than the 28 OF and I would buy if someone made it.
Funk

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03/19/2014 08:10 PM
Keep us posted. I am running Hutchinson Fusion 3 tubeless (700x23) at 85-90 PSI. The roads here are garbage as well. I'd love to try something different, but there doesn't seem to be much else out there. A buddy runs the Intensive 25's, but you are right re: the width. They don't look terribly different than my 23's.
Orange Crush

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03/19/2014 10:03 PM
28, man that's like riding a tank :-)

Maybe it doesn't feel like riding a tank but it sure looks like it.

25 is as big as I'll go on a road rig.
thinline

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03/20/2014 11:11 AM
I have Conti 25s and will for the first time (whenever the dang snow stops) get to try them on a wider rim. Supposed to be pretty plush and reduce rolling resistance. We'll see
Oldfart

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03/20/2014 01:55 PM
Yeah OC that's what I used to think too. But the Clements were only $35 each at MEC. Hutchinson tubeless go for about $100 each. Point Grey Road, Marine Drive all getting potholed in places. I now refer to those places as secteurs.
Orange Crush

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03/20/2014 05:04 PM
I know those secteurs Andy, the 25s work just fine.
79pmooney

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03/20/2014 06:15 PM
OC, aren't you lighter than Andy? That could make the difference right there.

Ben
Orange Crush

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03/20/2014 09:07 PM
Ben - nope bout the same I reckon, maybe Andy's lighter (I'm a hefty 170lbs right now; winter weight)
Oldfart

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03/21/2014 01:36 PM
I weighed 141 last night. Still chubby. Part of my issue I think is that I ride off road a lot too where I run no smaller than a 2.2 usually at psi of low 20's depending on conditions. So I am used to a mushy ride. The Whistler pavement and Pemberton too where I often ride is also shiite.
Master50

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03/22/2014 11:41 AM
fully switched to 25s and ride them at 100 psi. For victoria chip seal roads I found it a huge improvement. No room for bigger tires and I think If the roads were that bad I'd ride the MTB, maybe with slicks in the 28 to 32 mm range
Anyone tri big road tires on their 29 rims? I understand that 29er rims are the same size as 700c with wider rims. I would guess a 25 might be too narrow for a 29er rim but what about a 28 or 32?
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