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Last Post 07/24/2023 08:20 PM by Orange Crush. 58 Replies.
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79pmooney

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07/08/2023 09:17 AM
Sad news. We just lost Cav. Sounds like a collarbone. (Just saw the photo of him sitting there holding his shoulder and grimacing.)

I was just thinking about how mechanicals seem to be costing riders races at a rate I never recall BITD. (Yes, Fuentes struggled with his bar ends and lost Merckx in the mountains, 1971 Giro but I suspect the Cannibal was going to eat him anyway.) But recent years? Schleck's famous chain drop that cost him the biggest race there is. Chain drops and jams seem commonplace.

Now at the amateur level, mechanicals have always happened. I watched two NR cranks break from the best view in the house, on those rider's wheels. I dropped a chain twice in my hardest race ever. (Didn't realize the FD limit screws needed to be a half turn tighter so both high and low rubbed when running my Uniglide race chain vs the Sedis training chain.

CN has said twice now that Cav was limited in yesterday's sprint by a mechanical. Never heard what the issue was. But if so, a little heartbreaker if it kept him from acquiring that 35th win the day before the window closed so harshly.
Orange Crush

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07/08/2023 09:36 AM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 07/08/2023 07:03 AM
Not what I've seen, at least so far. Jasper hasn't had to start his sprint 10 or 20 bike lengths back.


That isn’t a Bol versus VDP difference though. Rickert is a beast, so is Krag Anderson. It allows VDP to time his effort. In Cavs words Bol has often needed to start early. Anyway we just. Lost Cav so now maybe Bol can go for is own chances but limited flat stages left. Ben, the apparent issue was chain skipping between 11 and 12 cogs in sprint.
79pmooney

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07/08/2023 04:14 PM
Hmmm. BITD setting the RD to make the chain wander between two cogs was near impossible despite having the perfect ability to place the RD anywhere with those friction shifters. Now replicating the "wandering" chain (at least with my Shimano FWs) is easy. And drives me nuts. I much prefer the older Sacks/Sedis FWs and my 9-speed Campy cassette for doing a better job of staying put (or if unhappy enough, shifting once and being done with it).
79pmooney

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07/09/2023 11:27 AM
What a day. North America 1st and 2nd. Top two GCs battling on an epic climb. (But not quite the epic battle of Poulidor and Anquetil. That photo!

Cycling News Live Report https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-france-2023/stage-9/live-report/
@4:01:41

Side by side with full contact, forearms and elbows. Riding as I was taught, with handlebars even.
Orange Crush

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07/11/2023 11:44 PM
Best stage and best win so far. #rideforGino

But what were the involuntary twins doing?
longslowdistance

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07/13/2023 06:50 PM
The first half of the last two stages have been amazing. This is on track to be the most compelling Tour since 1989.
longslowdistance

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07/13/2023 06:50 PM
PS sad that Cav’s exit is part of this story.
79pmooney

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07/13/2023 08:09 PM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 07/13/2023 06:50 PM
PS sad that Cav’s exit is part of this story.

Yes.  On the other hand, it does keep Eddie with his often so much more difficult stage wins in the record book.  I noted Cav went down hanging at the back.  Went down due to to amplification of speed changes at the front.  Eddy would have been at the front and missed the bad stuff entirely.


Orange Crush

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07/15/2023 03:49 PM
Was that the hardest fought one second in cycling history ?
79pmooney

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07/15/2023 03:54 PM
The Tour screwed up royally today. On the final HC up Plane, everybody knew Pogacar was going and that he has huge springs in his legs. Everybody but the two motor bikes. How does that happen?
79pmooney

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07/15/2023 04:00 PM
Posted By Orange Crush on 07/15/2023 03:49 PM
Was that the hardest fought one second in cycling history ?

I wanted to see Pogacar crest alone, barely ahead then see if he could stay ahead and reap some more seconds.  I feel we both go cheated.
Orange Crush

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07/15/2023 05:06 PM
The problem first and foremost was with ASO lack of crowd control. You have a summit with a bonus sprint and use some cheap rope to hold back thousands?

With proper crowd control those motos can get out of way no problem. They should have anticipated better but still.

Not sure that Pog would have been able to create a gap. Vingegaard reeled him in nicely on first try and Pog couldn’t create a gap at finish line either. His looks back when he was ahead for awhile we’re telling. Fish Guy is still there?! Also Vingegaard maybe the slightly better descender or at least on par.
longslowdistance

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07/15/2023 09:06 PM
? Well you got me there, voluntary vs involuntary twins!

Another very good stage (IMO), tomorrow may be huge.

Orange Crush

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07/16/2023 07:13 AM
The involuntary twins was VDPs and Van Aerts uncharacteristic totally mistimed brief escape.
longslowdistance

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07/16/2023 07:25 PM
Any repercussions for the as*hole dumbass who took out several riders today?
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