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THE SKINNY

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09/15/2014 08:57 AM
a friend of ours just bought a new jaguar f-type. he got the cheap version ($69k). he kept his other car for driving to work. $69k for weekend jaunts and he only lives about 2 bikeable miles from work. it's that kind of thinking that will ruin us.
How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
THE SKINNY

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09/15/2014 09:01 AM
there was an article this morning on npr about formula-1 type racing with electric cars. from what i understand f1 racing has changed their rules to make the engineering more applicable to everyday driving. i'm guessing fe racing is an offshoot of that? i also want to see self driving cars at fi races before i go that route. there's big money in moving people around.
How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
SideBySide

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09/15/2014 02:39 PM

Posted By inferno 7 on 09/13/2014 09:35 PM
I always thought it would be cool to have a green garage to power your green car. You know solar panels that would generate the charge for the car.


I know someone who does that. He has enough panels to be a net producer. He charges his plug-in at night. His production goes onto the grid during the day, when usage is higher. I suspect the power is better distributed since it can be generated and used locally instead of sent over wires from hundreds of miles away.
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09/15/2014 02:53 PM
FWIW, in Washington electricity generation was as follows, assuming I am understanding it correctly . They actually force the wind turbines to shut down when we have too much water and energy production to use or ship from the region.

285 GWH Natural gas
0 GWH Coal
777 GWH Nuclear
8936 GWH Hydroelectric
862 GWH Other renewables (wind)

From:
http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=WA#tabs-4
longslowdistance

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09/15/2014 06:54 PM
That's a lotta wind.
Are these stats generation or consumption?
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09/15/2014 07:03 PM
Electricity generation. Energy consumption is also broken down by all energy used.

BTW, the (wind) comment was my added, and an assumption. It is a lot of "Other renewables." I expected Nuclear to be greater than other.

It's too bad we can't get the power from here to where it is needed.

I was amazed by how much wind generation equipment I saw being transported on the highway as I drove from Nebraska to Seattle. Those blades are huge.
THE SKINNY

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09/15/2014 07:42 PM
i met a guy a few weeks ago that works at the local ge plant as a mechanical engineer. they build the dynamos for the wind turbines here and i see them all the time on trucks going to the port. he said they have one in the works now that will be 300' in diameter. i think the wind turbines are awesome. sorta science fictiony.
How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives.
jmdirt

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09/16/2014 09:28 AM
Mater, that's why I specified hydro electric.
jmdirt

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09/16/2014 02:36 PM
One of the West coast colleges bought two cars, same model, one gas, one electric and drove them for two years (EPA grant I believe). Each car had all sorts of sensors to monitor ever aspect you can imagine. At the end of two years they compiled the data, and also extrapolated it out to ten years. An electric car charged on hydro electric is cleaner over 10 years (including battery disposal (which is improving). I believe that there are groups doing the same with wind, solar, coal, and nuke now to compare.

As so often happens I can't find the published paper again. I've thought about buying a flash drive just to save interesting research on for later reference because I'm forever saying "I wish I could find that article/paper/etc.".

My above post was to Master not Mater.
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