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79pmooney

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10/13/2020 11:28 AM
The CyclingNews live report said at 95 km to go "Ramon Sinkeldam (Groupama-FDJ) has abandoned the race, apparently suffering from an unspecified illness."

Another team?

Edit:  Van Emden of J-V has a damning appraisal of UCI's willingness to allow RCS house as many as 5 teams with race officials and the escorting police and moto drivers in the same hotel.  This after he has heard of Matthews but not yet the second J-V positive and tbe team withdrawal.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/van-emden-the-uci-should-get-the-bill-for-giro-ditalia-covid-19-positives/
Orange Crush

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10/13/2020 12:04 PM
Not sure how much the UCI is to blame in this. They have always said that all races are subject to local and national health policies. That is for example why Amstel and Roubaix got canned.

Remember when ASO said they were not going to do the two strikes and you're out policy. Within several hours the French authorities came down hard on ASO and said yes you will or there is no race. French health authorities had a very heavy hand in how the race was run.

That government hand setting strict rules is what's been missing in Giro. Which is perhaps surprising because Italy as a country got their act together remarkably well over summer after initially being hit hard by Covid. They had been seen as an example. Until now.
Cosmic Kid

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10/13/2020 03:27 PM
The UCI could absolutely have reviewed / approved the housing / bubble plans for the Giro and told RCS "nope...that isn't gonna cut it."
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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10/13/2020 03:56 PM
Yeah, not doing the right thing because the authority didn't say you had to ... "I'm going to walk off this cliff because I don't see a sign saying not to." It's not like the outcome was hard to guess.
longslowdistance

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10/13/2020 05:47 PM
Fantastic stage today.
Orange Crush

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10/13/2020 05:49 PM
I'll disagree on this.

The UCI has zero expertise on matters COVID and they need to defer to the experts, which is what they are doing.

Sure they could have taken a look at the limited aspect of the hotel plan but this is also the point where you start muddying the waters as to who is responsible for what. That is never a good track to be on. The bubble plan would have already been well outside their expertise.
Orange Crush

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10/13/2020 05:50 PM
LSD - yes. Just when I put Giro on snooze till next Sunday Sagan forces me to search for a recap.
Cosmic Kid

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10/14/2020 08:56 AM
It is not that the UCI has expertise on COVID matters, but they know what worked in the TdF. The idea that you could have multiple teams staying in the same hotel with regular guests was never gonna work and the UCI should have stopped the plan before it was implemented.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Cosmic Kid

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10/14/2020 08:57 AM
But yes, yesterday was an excellent day of racing....the race to create the break ws excellent and then the last 30-40k was outstanding. A true "rip snorter".
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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10/14/2020 10:32 AM
The good news for Sunweb is that upon re-test Matthews is now negative. He's out of race but at least team is not a risk factor at moment.
Cosmic Kid

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10/14/2020 02:26 PM
I hadn't seen that...definitely good news.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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10/14/2020 02:43 PM
But a raw deal for Matthews.
Orange Crush

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10/14/2020 02:48 PM
Yes, obviously he would have preferred to keep racing. But better safe than sorry.

Or as the Jumbo-Visma GM Plugge put it, I sure hope we left the Giro for the wrong reasons.
Orange Crush

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10/15/2020 11:01 AM
A formal request has been submitted by EF team for Giro to end early, presumably Sunday. This after lengthy early morning discussions at start among riders from all the teams. (edit) - the request was denied\.

Apparently there were 17 police escorts that tested positive although they may be associated with the parallel e-bike Giro. I didn't even know there was a parallel e-bike Giro. But this really has put fear into riders. The police dudes were apparently worst for following covid rules, go figure.

Supposedly the Giro and UCI are wanting the Italian health authorities to pipe in and make the call but I doubt this Giro will last another week. The Italians have messed up royally running this show.
79pmooney

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10/15/2020 11:16 AM
OC, my joke for the day - they should have quarantined that peloton moto driver yesterdays as a preventive measure. Viviani would have been grateful.
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