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Orange Crush

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10/05/2020 01:20 PM
That crash over water bottle was some cruel bad luck for Thomas. From race favorite to a possible early exit in fraction of a second.

I has expected Yates to fall out of contention somewhere but not this dramatically early.

Throw out the playbook. This is the Giro.
Cosmic Kid

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10/06/2020 06:30 AM
Thomas out with a fractured pelvis.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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10/06/2020 12:00 PM
Posted By 79 pmooney on 10/03/2020 10:08 PM
Posted By Orange Crush on 10/03/2020 09:05 PM
Sounds like every rider got a 500 fine from UCI for an outfit unbecoming.

This needs to be covered by the team.  If it isn't, CPA should step up fast.  No way should a rider be forced to wear those jerseys AND have to pay the fine!  (But again, more incentive to ride fast and well enough to trade jerseys for one of the good ones at stage end.     I can envision several riders vying for GC, points, anything!)


This was actually a one-time fine because the Palace logo was added compared to what was submitted for approval to UCI. To which Vaughters replied that they wanted to keep addition of Palace as sponsor a secret; the UCI cannot be trusted with secrets. Hahaha,
79pmooney

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10/06/2020 12:00 PM
Once again CPA has the opportunity to step up and make a real difference in rider safety. Demand that UCI put in place WB cage standards. There is zero excuse for WBs falling out of cages on short stretches of pave. The technology to make a cage that works was dialed in 50 years ago. CPA should demand that UCI write the standards, give teams and manufacturers till (say) Jan 2022 to comply, then allow the race officials to yank bottles at random before starts. Too easy? "Grab another bike."

One of these dumb little things that, if implemented, helps cyclists around the world. And perhaps a chance for bike designers to earn their keep finding another 20 grams to shed elsewhere.

Press helicopter flying too low and knocking out the two Vini Zabu? Some one should be answering for that!
Orange Crush

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10/06/2020 12:07 PM
CPA won't demand anything because CPA is a weak entity put in place by UCI with limited rider representation.

There is actually a rider movement going on to replace CPA with an actual rider's union in which there is "one rider one vote" representation. Both UCI and CPA are pushing back hard against this. Which is very telling. This is when Laparient used his infamous "fake news" comment: https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-backs-cpa-riders-association-as-threat-of-breakaway-emerges-in-mens-worldtour-peloton/

On the bottle cage design, there won't even be a weight penalty for a properly functioning cage. The ones on my gravel bike are plastic and super light weight. But they lock in bottles really well, I won't ever lose one with those cages.
79pmooney

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10/11/2020 11:18 AM
The EF jersey incentive again. On a miserable day, Ruben Guerreiro rides into the break, wins and takes the mountain jersey.
Orange Crush

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10/11/2020 11:25 AM
Actually really liking that jersey when you see it in action.

The action itself is disappointing so far. Not expecting much till next Sunday.
Dale

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10/11/2020 12:48 PM
Regarding the rogue bottles- have you seen the weak bottle throws lately? Pathetic wimpy efforts that don’t even clear the side of the road. I’ve seen a few that just looked like a bored teenager dropping a cigarette butt.

This is how you throw a bottle... this amount of force, just not at the moto

https://youtu.be/YcTh351AwAA
Orange Crush

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10/11/2020 01:16 PM
Dale - I don’t know answer but is this possibly mandated? Ie don’t throw bottles were they cannot be found.
79pmooney

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10/11/2020 04:04 PM
Dale, that was a throw from a famous sprinter; one of those guys with the overall strength to jump in a huge gear from a world class train. A feather weight climber with collarbone breaks? Not happening. I had my best results (with the old yellow power bar wrappers (banana peels) doing an underhanded toss. Collarbone breaks - I'm talking from experience. My overhand toss looks like a girl's. I cannot turn my head to the right enough to watch the guy behind.
Cosmic Kid

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10/13/2020 07:24 AM
Fooooooook.....Jumbo-Visma and Michelton-Scott both out of the Giro w/ Covid. A few other rides also out (Lawson Craddock, Michael Matthews)

Looking pretty grim for this race to get to the finish.....
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
6ix

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10/13/2020 08:12 AM
Woke up to check on the cycling news fully expecting to see the race cancelled. Actually surprised they haven't yet but I'd be shocked if they make it to Milan. Expect to see many of the remaining classics cancelled too.

It's just too soon.
Orange Crush

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10/13/2020 09:23 AM
Not surprising. Teams have been indicating that protocols at Giro have been much more loose than at Tour. In particular in Sicily hotels things were bad.

The Giro effed but I don’t see any implications for other races yet.
longslowdistance

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10/13/2020 09:25 AM
Had the same thoughts. Not to mention maskless fans shouting at riders just a couple of feet away. How will Spain handle this pesky virus?
Orange Crush

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10/13/2020 09:39 AM
Jumbo did right thing by pulling entire team after one positive.
Mitchelton didn’t have much choice.
One should question Sunweb. At a minimum they should have additionally pulled Matthews’s roommate. These guys now present a risk factor to Giro.
Also wondering where the other two support staff positives are.

Hopefully the Vuelta can learn from this and adopt Tour protocols. Particularly on hotel situation to provide proper bubbles not have several teams race organizer staff and police support all in one hotel. This is asking for trouble.
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