79pmooney
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| 09/20/2020 01:13 PM |
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Thanks OC. I've only read hearsay so far, not his "numbers", nor I am up on what those numbers can be.
Funny, I read he did this with no power meter or computer. A man of my heart. Now, I'm guessing he had that stuff on the TT bike, just not the climb bike. If I were doing that TT, that's what I would do. And I'd be watching my numbers carefully to never go above a solid steady state until I swapped bikes.
(Years ago I rode a century over Lolo Pass, the old Oregon Trail wagon route over the Cascades. Wanted to be totally on my game for the Pass. Wore a monitor and kept my HR under 155 for the first several hills. Tedious! I let a lot of people go I could stay with easily. Rode the pass with a racer easily 15-20 years younger, just keeping to 165 the whole time. Had him pegged and left him the final mile and grade changes. Didn't look at the monitor again the rest of the day. My legs were the limiting factor. I passed a whole bunch of riders that left me hours before. At the dinner, that racer came up to me and thanked me for getting him over the pass! Wish that century was still happening. My favorite ever.)
I wonder if Roglic would have been better off getting no info on how he was doing re: Pogacar, especially over the first 30 km. Maybe come into the bottom of the climb 30 seconds slower. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/20/2020 01:18 PM |
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| Comparing a stage finish to the TT is interesting. 30k of TT effort should be a lot harder, but then again the teams often race to the bottom of the finishing climb in a regular stage. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/20/2020 01:26 PM |
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Ben I thought the fact that he had no power data was interesting too. Obviously more fodder for conspiracy theorists. Wondering how this would work with bike swap. He would need two computers I’d think. You’re not going to drag it over.
A few years ago Tom indicated he trained with power but raced on feeling without data. Not sure if that’s still the case. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/21/2020 10:54 AM |
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So Pogacar joins the ranks of Hinault and Merckx as first time winners.
In terms of jersey haul, back in 1969 Merckx took home yellow, points, mountain and combination. He also won combativity and his team won the team price. That must have been some boring one-sided affair, glad I missed it LOL. |
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eurochien
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| 09/21/2020 11:14 AM |
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Explain something to me... What does "first time winner" mean? Everyone who's ever won a TdF for the first time was a first time winner aren't they? or does this mean winning the TdF on their first participation?
As an aside, I'm glad a Campy-equipped, rim brake Colnago won the Tour, regardless of clean performance or not. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/21/2020 11:16 AM |
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Posted By Franck A. on 09/21/2020 11:14 AM
Explain something to me... What does "first time winner" mean? Everyone who's ever won a TdF for the first time was a first time winner aren't they? or does this mean winning the TdF on their first participation?
First time participation. |
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79pmooney
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| 09/21/2020 12:06 PM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 09/21/2020 10:54 AM
So Pogacar joins the ranks of Hinault and Merckx as first time winners.
In terms of jersey haul, back in 1969 Merckx took home yellow, points, mountain and combination. He also won combativity and his team won the team price. That must have been some boring one-sided affair, glad I missed it LOL.
And the young riders jersey except they hadn't made it yet.
"... Campy-equipped, rim brake Colnago won the Tour ..." and no electronics except for what he was required to have! Now, if he could have ditched his helmet waiting for the bike change.
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Orange Crush
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| 09/21/2020 12:24 PM |
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This actually has a bit more detail. He had all the electronic gizmos on the TT bike but not on the bike used to tackle the climb. His stage 21 bike looks to be decked out with gizmos again. Probably just a matter of logistics of bike switch.
https://www.velonews.com/events/tour-de-france/the-winning-bike-of-the-tour-de-france-tadej-pogacars-colnago-v3rs/ |
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Dale
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| 09/21/2020 01:11 PM |
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Posted By Franck A. on 09/21/2020 11:14 AM
I'm glad a Campy-equipped, rim brake Colnago won the Tour, regardless of clean performance or not.
Me too. Very happy that Ernesto got to see one of his bikes under the winner of the tour.
It's the one race that has eluded him |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/21/2020 01:13 PM |
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| Eddy Merckx won a few while riding colnagos.
. . . If you were just kidding my bad. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/21/2020 01:25 PM |
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| They were Colnagos but were they branded as such? I thought I read somewhere they were not. Before my time. |
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Dale
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| 09/21/2020 02:35 PM |
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| Merckx bikes were built by Colnago but not branded as such. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/22/2020 06:37 AM |
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| They had eddy’s name but IIRC the colnago cut out lugs and distinctive fork crown Everyone just called them Colnagos. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/22/2020 06:41 AM |
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| His custom hour record bike was called “ the jewel of all Colnago’s creations”. Merckx had Mexican manufacturer Windsor stickers on that bike for a few thousand dollars and some good will from the Mexico City locals. IMO not a classy move. Everyone outside of Mexico and probably most in knew it was a Colnago. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/23/2020 10:07 PM |
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Still digesting this entertaining but to me highly suspiciously fast TDF.
Discuss. |
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