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Last Post 07/12/2013 03:33 PM by Cosmic Kid. 66 Replies.
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Cosmic Kid

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07/12/2013 11:10 AM
Whooops.....so much for the SKYbots and their program. Exposed once again. Down to 2 riders in the chase group.

If I saw that attack correctly, it looked like Saxo had a guy behind the main charge and he sat up to create the gap which snapped the elastic. Brilliant.

Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
The Short White Guy™

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07/12/2013 11:15 AM
Maybe the Sky bus will have a "mechanical" later today?

CERV

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07/12/2013 03:09 PM
Posted By Cosmic Kid on 07/12/2013 10:24 AM
Posted By CERV __ on 07/12/2013 02:59 AM

One metric that isn't speculative is that Froome's time up A3 is the third fastest recorded,


Actually, it is kinda speculative. They have only been up the climb 4 times.So you can say it is the 3rd fastest or the second slowest. Just depends on your perspective, I suppose. Again, I;m not defending SKY or claiming that they are clean. As I said, I raised my eyebrows a touch after the TT. I just think there is a massive difference between being (rightfully) suspicious and outright calling the guy a doper when there is no evidence.


I don't follow. (nothing new) How could it be considered 2nd slowest?
CERV

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07/12/2013 03:11 PM
It was nice to see today that Sky, for all the training advantages, hasn't really learned how to race bikes yet. Maybe there is some hopes of the GC closing up more.
Reminds me of their showings in the classic this year.
Cosmic Kid

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07/12/2013 03:16 PM
They have gone up the climb 4 times.

1) Rider A
2) Rider B
3) Froome
4) Rider C

Yes, Froome is the 3rd fastest time. But there is also only one other time slower than Froome, Rider C. So it is also the second slowest time ever recorded up that climb.

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CERV

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07/12/2013 03:20 PM
That 3rd place is out of a top 100 times recorded. The peloton has gone up 4 times. So it's more like:
Rider A
Rider B
Froome
Rest of riders in peloton A,B,C,D combined

Some riders are on there multiple times in the top 20 as they have ridden it more than once, but many of the names in the top 30 are known or suspected dopers

_1. Roberto Laiseka _____ ESP | 22:57 | 2001
_2. Lance Armstrong _____ USA | 22:59 | 2001
_3. Chris Froome ________ GBR | 23:14 | 2013
_4. Jan Ullrich _________ GER | 23:17 | 2003
_5. Haimar Zubeldia _____ ESP | 23:19 | 2003
_6. Jan Ullrich _________ GER | 23:22 | 2001
_7. Lance Armstrong _____ USA | 23:24 | 2003
_8. Alexandre Vinokourov_ KAZ | 23:34 | 2003
_9. Ivan Basso __________ ITA | 23:36 | 2003
10. Lance Armstrong _____ USA | 23:40 | 2005

10. Ivan Basso __________ ITA | 23:42 | 2005
11. Oscar Sevilla _______ ESP | 23:45 | 2001
12. Joseba Beloki _______ ESP | 23:45 | 2001
13. Denis Menchov _______ RUS | 23:47 | 2010
14. Samuel Sanchez ______ ESP | 23:47 | 2010
15. Jan Ullrich _________ GER | 24:00 | 2005
16. Andy Schleck ________ LUX | 24:01 | 2010
17. Joaquim Rodriguez ___ ESP | 24:01 | 2010
18. Robert Gesink _______ NED | 24:01 | 2010
19. Alberto Contador ____ ESP | 24:01 | 2010
20. Jurgen van den Broeck BEL | 24:01 | 2010

21. Richie Porte ________ AUS | 24:05 | 2013
22. Levi Leipheimer _____ USA | 24:15 | 2005
23. Floyd Landis ________ USA | 24:15 | 2005
24. Iban Mayo ___________ ESP | 24:15 | 2003
25. Santiago Botero _____ COL | 24:19 | 2001
26. Michael Boogerd _____ NED | 24:19 | 2001
27. Alexandre Vinokourov_ KAZ | 24:19 | 2001
28. Stefano Garzelli ____ ITA | 24:19 | 2001
29. Inigo Chaureau ______ ESP | 24:19 | 2001
30. Marcos Serrano ______ ESP | 24:19 | 2001
Cosmic Kid

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07/12/2013 03:33 PM
Fair enough. I was looking at it from the perspective of the winners of the climb, I guess.
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