Cosmic Kid
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| 09/04/2020 08:11 PM |
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That was a crazy ass stage....I happened to wake up early and flipped on the TV. Saw KM0 and it was on from the gun.
Once Bora had done what they needed to do and seemed ready to ease up, INEOS picked up the mantle and shredded the field.
No shock that Landa and Porte lost time when they shouldn’t have....true to brand for both of them.
And Wout...jeez, what a stud. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/04/2020 08:32 PM |
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Interesting commentary on Velonews. Ineos skewered the peloton in crosswinds in 2019. The guys that lost time last year are the exact same that lost time this year. That is either uncanny or goes to show some don’t learn well. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/04/2020 08:34 PM |
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| Oh and shame for Carapaz. He looks like he’s coming along but got shedded due to mechanical. |
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longslowdistance
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| 09/04/2020 08:50 PM |
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| did you mean shame or rather pity? |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/04/2020 09:03 PM |
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| Pity. As in that’s a shame. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/04/2020 09:53 PM |
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| Also interesting commentary from Lefevre acknowledging they got skewered today on a stage that is typically tailored to DQS. Emphasizes again they started banking on green instead of yellow but Bennett missed the boat big time. He’s just lucky that in finale Sagan chain skipped so he didn’t factor in sprint. |
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79pmooney
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| 09/05/2020 05:19 PM |
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What racing today! J-V laid it out, KO'd Pinot but showed they had a human side also. Kuss, in his home territory, couldn't do it after yesterday's wind work. Roglic rode very well, but Dumoulin is out of it.
My favorite, NQ, is doing just what he needs to do and appears to be riding a very smart Tour. Hoping he can hang where he is and show his stuff on Stage 17 with the two long HCs and a finish at most of the altitude of his childhood. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/06/2020 10:43 AM |
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Good racing the last 3 days....but Roglic is going to regret not putting time into Bernal the last two days. Mark my words....
Hirschi...oh man. That hurts....he could have win that sprint, but he went too early. What a story line that would have been.
Bummed to see Dumoulin sacrifice his chances for Roglic...I just don’t think he has the killer mentality to win the Tour.
Pinot...something always goes wrong for that guy. I think a lot of it is in his head, personally. I love him, but he just doesn’t have the mental toughness to win a GT, IMO. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/06/2020 11:03 AM |
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Still pretty wide open race.For a little while it looked like herd of contenders might get culled but those clawed themselves back to 11 seconds. A lot can still happen in week three.
TdF is looking like Giro in a typical year. Guess that comes with territory of being first in season. |
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79pmooney
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| 09/06/2020 11:33 AM |
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OC, I love that this isn't the Postal/Discoveyr/Sky/Ineos express train. (Train leaves the platform at 12:00. Arrive early, pay for good sears and board that first car. It will be dropping it's last car at intervals as it goes.) J-V has that power but they've used it to blow stages apart, not stop anything interesting from happening.
CK, I felt all along that Dumoulin doesn't quite have the power to weight and "the dance" for really serious vertical and that he knows that. He can pull it off for maybe one stage because he has one h*** of an engine but he has to red-line to do it. This Tour has more of those than he can do. Also, he's not going to be taking a lot of time back on the penultimate day ITT with that 500m finish.
It would have been better for J-V if Dumoulin could have held on longer at the thin end of the GC to give other teams more to watch and keep Roglic out of the spotlight but at the same time, Dumouln was a large part in blowing the Tour apart and hurting many of their foes in places where it played to his strengths. And now, Dumoulin can use his abilities to do further damage, then pull off, lose time and save himself for another day (of either doing still more damage or pulling off a stage win for his sponsors). If I were the J-V management, I wouldn't be to upset with how things are playing out. |
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79pmooney
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| 09/06/2020 11:43 AM |
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Posted By Cosmic Kid on 09/06/2020 10:43 AM
Good racing the last 3 days....but Roglic is going to regret not putting time into Bernal the last two days. Mark my words....
And Quintana. Yeah, he lost 15 seconds today. But getting separated, he could have lost a lot more. Since he is often not right up front, I don't see much footage/commentary of him but it seams like he has been riding very smart and that he has the ability to be in groups with decent cooperation, something not all riders have. Stage 17 could be a Quintana/Bernal showcase and a nightmare for Roglic. (I don't wish the nightmare but I really want to see that showcase!)
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/06/2020 06:01 PM |
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| OC, no doubt that this was a bad course for Dumoulin. The Giro would have been a better option for him this year. |
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Orange Crush
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| 09/06/2020 06:58 PM |
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Posted By Cosmic Kid on 09/06/2020 06:01 PM
OC, no doubt that this was a bad course for Dumoulin. The Giro would have been a better option for him this year.
I made no such statement. Was that Ben? I think Dumoulin could have done well on this course . It’s just too early and he tends to put negative thought in his head. IMO he made a bad call yesterday to sacrifice himself. JV management thinks he made a bad call but it was too late to correct it. They talked to him and now Tom sees the error of his decision.Oh well. |
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Dale
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| 09/06/2020 07:21 PM |
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Heartbreaker for sure... as soon as he jumped I yelled, “TOO SOON!”
Unrelated to racing but geeze Louise, somebody teach these guys how to throw a water bottle. What’s with the weak toss or worse yet just dropping them in the road like it’s a hand grenade to blow up three seconds behind them.
Tom Steeles needs to put on a clinic for this generation. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 09/06/2020 07:53 PM |
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| OC, maybe I misinterpreted your post....but agree 100% with your last one. |
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