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Vaccines - the graphenes of the COVID world
Last Post 01/21/2022 10:40 PM by 79 pmooney. 184 Replies.
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79pmooney

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03/25/2021 09:29 PM

Posted By Frederick Jones on 03/25/2021 08:36 PM
Chewing the fat here a bit. OC thanks for the link about infections among the vaccinated in an old folks home in BC. Some similar and more widely publicized events occurred in Quebec City and Montreal. I dug into it a bit and found that a common theme was that the positive tests mainly occurred less than two weeks after vaccination, i.e. before maximal immunity. The point being that the vaccines likely work even better in the elderly than these reports might suggest, if given enough time. More good news.

I'm thinking I don't get to let my guard down until 6 weeks from tomorrow. (Assuming a 28 day wait for the next shot if I get Pfizer.) May 7th.
smokey52

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03/25/2021 10:20 PM
Pfizer has a 21-day interval. Moderna (ie, modern RNA) has a 28-day interval. J&J is single dose.
Orange Crush

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03/27/2021 07:04 PM
Good analysis LSD.

Case load here starting to rise sharply. Doesn’t seem to be tied to changing behaviours. Must be variants.
79pmooney

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03/28/2021 12:20 AM
Got stabbed. Felt nothing yesterday. Woke up to a sore shoulder but otherwise fine (after a great, deep sleep). Rode to the farmers market feeling far better than I expected as I didn't have it yesterday on my pre-shot ride. Was hurting coming home but not surprised. (Downhill in, 550' home.) Started feeling tired mid afternoon so elected to take a nap with March Madness on the radio. Flu-like full body discomfort started up. Took two aspirin when it got to the point where I had to move every 30 seconds. Feel a lot better now 2 hours into the aspirin. (Aspirin is my miracle drug. I always feel better after taking it, even when the pain is one it cannot address.)

So ... I didn't get the placebo. Hooray! Pfizer, yes I was told 3 weeks. Scheduled for my second April 16th. May Day, the Worker's day, my freedom day.

I was thinking I'd get it early June. Thank you Mr. Biden.
zootracer

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03/28/2021 09:34 AM
My wife and I have received our second Pfizer shot. Sore arm for a few days. Second shot I felt a little bit "loopy" a few hours later. Tired for a few days. My wife and I are past age 75. I sat outside in the sun while my wife was getting her shot and watched the parade of old folks shuffle in. Many were using walkers and some in wheelchairs. Some were struggling with breathing problems. Many had to be assisted. Some had to be driven in by vans. Made me feel fortunate to be heathy. Old age is no fun, but at least I am upright and mobile. Exercise is prolonging my life I think, but riding has become a lot more difficult. I stopped riding during the winter months as my old bones and joints can't handle the cold. Spring is hard for me. I still love riding. It's just become harder. I turn 79 this August. Enjoy what you have now. Keep the rubber side down.
Zoot
79pmooney

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03/28/2021 01:09 PM
Zoot, my mom rode until she crashed at 85 and couldn't get enough strength back to ride fast enough to feel safe in traffic. The street she lived on and that I grew up on is intimidating and getting worse every year. My inspiration. That's another 17 years for me (although it is also the median lifespan of my dad's side males). So, if I can follow you, I'll be doing well.
Cosmic Kid

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03/29/2021 03:06 PM
Thank you Mr. Biden.


Elections have consequences.....isn't that what the GOP liked to spout for the last 4 years?
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Cosmic Kid

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03/29/2021 05:54 PM
Good news just released re: the effectiveness of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines

* 80% effective against infection 2 weeks after the first dose
* 90% effective against infection 2 weeks after the second dose

I'm two weeks post-Shot #1, so I like this data!!

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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03/29/2021 08:17 PM
Not all good news
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-officials-pandemic-warning-1.5968462

Sounds like you are seeing a gradual rise in cases again. Same gradual rise Canada and Europe saw a few weeks ago. In past week that gradual rise was replaced by exponential growth. Ontario is out of control. BC is at edge. So we’re tightening things again. Including full shutdown of Whistler Blackcomb to keep out domestic tourists. Sounds like in US largest rises are now seen near Canada border. That border isn’t opening anytime soon. Your case load is still higher though although we’re edging closer and closer.

As Canada researcher put it recently. We now have two pandemics. The original virus which is well in control and variants which are far from under control.

The Brazilian variant sounds like it is on a fast rise. It has high risk of reinfection. Also more deadly among youth. This is the one that scares experts at moment.

It will be some time before we’re truly out of woods. Way too early to start celebrating and letting our guard down. For all I know the finish line could be another 2 years out. Don’t pull an Alaphillipe.
Orange Crush

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03/29/2021 08:35 PM
Edit - Whistler is being closed precisely because of surge in P1 variant among its youth workers.
Orange Crush

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03/29/2021 10:22 PM
Here’s a good and up to date analysis for those interested in nitty gritty. I’m reading Q3, Q4 as earliest return to normal depending where you are (and if things go well)

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/healthcare-systems-and-services/our-insights/when-will-the-covid-19-pandemic-end

Cosmic Kid

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03/30/2021 09:52 AM
Yeah, I'm not celebrating anything except how effective even a first dose is against infection. The only thing I'll be changing in my behavior is that I feel comfortable joining a group ride at this point. Between the effectiveness of the vaccine and being outside, I feel pretty confident that there is only a very small risk in joining my normal group rides now.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
79pmooney

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03/30/2021 11:52 AM
A little fun with the vaccine effectiveness percentages. 2 weeks after the first - 80%. 2 weeks after the second - 90%. And standing there with pride - the anti-vaxxer 3%ers.

In ten days I get to be an 80%er. (And no, it won't change my habits much. Just lower my level of worry a bit.)
Orange Crush

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03/30/2021 09:04 PM
Interesting turn of events. With all the fuss around the AZ vaccine and BC getting a big shipment from US since it isn’t approved there, what was initially supposed to be a big push to get front line workers vaccinated using that batch is now getting redirected to the 55-65 year farts like myself so it doesn’t go to waste. So sounds like I’ll be on phone with pharmacy shortly to book an appointment much sooner than expected.
Cosmic Kid

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03/30/2021 09:23 PM
Awesome news, OC!!
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
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